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re: Will removing all these symbols rectify what caused the SC shooting?
Posted on 6/23/15 at 3:50 pm to Alahunter
Posted on 6/23/15 at 3:50 pm to Alahunter
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I wanted folks to think for a minute, beyond the media narrative and the grandstanding of politicians, as though that will fix the problem.
Well, the underlying problem is hate and hatred for an entire race of people. To many, the flag is a symbol of that same hatred, and it's displayed on the grounds of State House, in the same state where the killing occurred. How can we expect to have an honest discussion about hatred, in a state where the hate-fueled killing occurred, when the state's government still flies a flag of hatred on their grounds?
Removing the flag isn't going to fix anything, and I don't think anyone expects it to. But if we're going to move forward as a state, as a country, and face down the issue of hatred that can sometimes manifest into such an tragedy, we must first demand the government that represents us doesn't sanction the flying of a flag that represents that same hatred.
I don't see why that is so hard for some people to get.
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Posted on 6/23/15 at 3:57 pm to The Spleen
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Well, the underlying problem is hate and hatred for an entire race of people. To many, the flag is a symbol of that same hatred, and it's displayed on the grounds of State House, in the same state where the killing occurred. How can we expect to have an honest discussion about hatred, in a state where the hate-fueled killing occurred, when the state's government still flies a flag of hatred on their grounds?
Removing the flag isn't going to fix anything, and I don't think anyone expects it to. But if we're going to move forward as a state, as a country, and face down the issue of hatred that can sometimes manifest into such an tragedy, we must first demand the government that represents us doesn't sanction the flying of a flag that represents that same hatred.
I don't see why that is so hard for some people to get.
Agreed.
I don't get why people are opposed to removing a symbol w/ the purpose of changing the culture of racism that exists in the state. A culture that as of now appears to be tacitly endorsed by our government.
Posted on 6/23/15 at 4:37 pm to The Spleen
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Well, the underlying problem is hate and hatred for an entire race of people. To many, the flag is a symbol of that same hatred, and it's displayed on the grounds of State House, in the same state where the killing occurred. How can we expect to have an honest discussion about hatred, in a state where the hate-fueled killing occurred, when the state's government still flies a flag of hatred on their grounds? Removing the flag isn't going to fix anything, and I don't think anyone expects it to. But if we're going to move forward as a state, as a country, and face down the issue of hatred that can sometimes manifest into such an tragedy, we must first demand the government that represents us doesn't sanction the flying of a flag that represents that same hatred. I don't see why that is so hard for some people to get.
Again, do you really think anything will be addressed beyond taking down these items?
I get what they represent to many and as I stated, I am not saying taking them down isn't right. But there is so much focus on those items and hardly any discussion about what leads to the racism and the hatred.
Even in your reply, I didn't see anything except, taking down these things are the first step in reducing hatred. Then nothing else. As if these objects instantly create that hatred.
Perhaps digging deeper should be the focus at this point, and not the window dressing. And that is what seems so hard for some people to get, because it isn't a quick feel good moment or good tv.
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