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re: If the Muslims want holy war then let's give it to them.

Posted on 5/20/15 at 11:05 am to
Posted by cardboardboxer
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 11:05 am to
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You just gave a perfect description of middle 1930s Japan.



The difference is that Japan wanted political control of its part of Asia AND control over the resources. China sees that political control is more important (if it even hopes to say dominate the South China Sea or take back Taiwan) and it doesn't mind getting its resources from an Africa, a Russia, or a Middle East. A 1930's Japan was much more aggressive, and wasn't that far removed from their own war with Russia. They thought they had to emulate the European military industrial complex to compete on the world stage. China has a different plan for success.

I have been to China, and I have worked with some of their key people in their top petroleum company (which also controls a lot of other natural resources). It is very obvious that they aren't like the 1930's Japanese with a chip on their shoulder, or even a modern American who forces our philosophy at the end of a gun. They care about keeping the dragon running, and making sure that they are in a position to control many of the Earth's most important resources in the next 100 years. They will let those Africans kill themselves for the payment check, no need to try to pick a winner or get involved in a humanitarian crisis. As long as the Africans don't mess with the pipelines or the highways the Chinese have built to pull out all those natural resources that a consumeristic society needs to have rapid product cycles then the Chinese are happy. Who is in charge in those nations, how many tanks they have, and if they are a democracy or capitalism or whatever doesn't matter to the Chinese. All that matters is keeping the factories running, and they are happy to let America take the burden of being the global police force that keeps shipping lanes intact.

This century is a whole different ballgame than the last one.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 5/20/15 at 12:37 pm to
What's so "freakenomics" about the whole thing is that because of America's uncontrolled illegal immigration, we are taking an economic hit right now that is actually going to help keep us on top in 40 years. We're the only developed nation that still has a healthy birth rate, and it's due in large part to Mexicans. China is about 20 years behind japan on the demographic track, and it's going to be a pretty bad setback.

I agree with you on the Chinese mentality; I've been to that part of the world fairly often and china is much more like the Spanish empire than the British, which is who we try to emulate. It's why I'm glad we are taking our current tactic in the Middle East: we don't care who is in power anymore as long as the oil flows.
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