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re: True of False? (ISIS thread)

Posted on 4/21/15 at 10:45 pm to
Posted by cokebottleag
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Posted on 4/21/15 at 10:45 pm to
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Killz is getting his Sleepy Tiger freak on but I do tend to agree with him in that we feed fear in the US to eradicate and undermine freedoms granted by our founding fathers. Would I go so far as to label it a conspiracy, probably not, but most things viewed as conspiracy driven are just policies from an arrogant and out of touch leadership who are sublimating their own fears on the general public.



What laws are being written that erode our freedoms due to ISIS? Really?

ISIS isn't nearly the danger to our freedoms as Lena Dunham and the rape-culture crowd that want to throw every man on the sex-offender registry if he so much as looks at a woman. Social change and laws are being wrought all the time by those loonies, and they are OVER HERE. Then there are the tree hugging wack jobs who are pushing actively for laws to be written that outlaw coal, oil, and nuclear power so that I have to pay 10 times what I do now for energy, because I have to be forced into poverty to save the planet. No, THOSE are the boogeymen. THOSE are the terror groups that are conspiring to end our way of life as we know it and oppress us. THEY are the knife in the dark, the tyrants among us. They are already inside, they are teaching your children to be just like them, they are infesting the schools, the colleges, the media. They print your paper, they write your movie script, they teach your child that men are evil and that there is no injustice too great that can be put upon you to further their cause.

They have a religion, and their high priests are damning you for not conforming, their sacrament is wealth redistribution on their order, their holy book is Silent Spring, their saints demand your freedoms taken because they don't create a 'safe space', their redemption is to see the United States taught a lesson and brought low, because then they as Americans can finally feel salvation and atonement.

They, are the boogeymen. ISIS is a sideshow.
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 7:46 am to
ISIS is fake. They're not a threat. But there are consequences of their fakery.

The beheadings, Paris ect. Faked events.

I'm sure there is realness to some of the things that happen day-day.

But the big things, the newsworthy things they do are fake -- created for our news by the CIA.

The problem with is when they decide to fake big things there are consequences of those events on our freedoms and lifestyle. (Like 911).
This post was edited on 4/22/15 at 7:50 am
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 4/22/15 at 8:48 am to
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ISIS isn't nearly the danger to our freedoms as Lena Dunham and the rape-culture crowd that want to throw every man on the sex-offender registry if he so much as looks at a woman. Social change and laws are being wrought all the time by those loonies, and they are OVER HERE. Then there are the tree hugging wack jobs who are pushing actively for laws to be written that outlaw coal, oil, and nuclear power so that I have to pay 10 times what I do now for energy, because I have to be forced into poverty to save the planet. No, THOSE are the boogeymen. THOSE are the terror groups that are conspiring to end our way of life as we know it and oppress us. THEY are the knife in the dark, the tyrants among us. They are already inside, they are teaching your children to be just like them, they are infesting the schools, the colleges, the media. They print your paper, they write your movie script, they teach your child that men are evil and that there is no injustice too great that can be put upon you to further their cause.


I half agree, and half don't with this. ISIS isn't near the threat that alot perceive it to be. That is correct. It's no CIA conspiracy, but it isn't THAT big of an issue to be concerned with unless you live in the Middle East.

You are correct that there are radicals in America, but they are not confined to one side or the other. Social issues are complex, and will take centuries to overcome and change. As for the energy statement, it is a known fact that there is a finite amount of coal and oil in our planet. It is also known that coal and oil, when burned, create a negative for our atmosphere and planet. Combine the two, and it makes perfect sense to research various sources of energy that are not finite (wind, solar, etc). Its not "trying to make you poor" or "lose your job," It is simply the smart thing to do. Because eventually, the coal and oil will run out, and we had better have an alternative source available.

Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/22/15 at 12:21 pm to
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What laws are being written that erode our freedoms due to ISIS? Really?
Wrong question.
The question is, how far has the creation of ISIS been able to herd the sheople (mainly through fear) so that FUTURE laws, that erode our freedoms, are perceived as acceptable?

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ISIS isn't nearly the danger to our freedoms as Lena Dunham and the rape-culture crowd that want to throw every man on the sex-offender registry if he so much as looks at a woman. Social change and laws are being wrought all the time by those loonies, and they are OVER HERE. Then there are the tree hugging wack jobs who are pushing actively for laws to be written that outlaw coal, oil, and nuclear power so that I have to pay 10 times what I do now for energy, because I have to be forced into poverty to save the planet. No, THOSE are the boogeymen. THOSE are the terror groups that are conspiring to end our way of life as we know it and oppress us. THEY are the knife in the dark, the tyrants among us. They are already inside, they are teaching your children to be just like them, they are infesting the schools, the colleges, the media. They print your paper, they write your movie script, they teach your child that men are evil and that there is no injustice too great that can be put upon you to further their cause.

They have a religion, and their high priests are damning you for not conforming, their sacrament is wealth redistribution on their order, their holy book is Silent Spring, their saints demand your freedoms taken because they don't create a 'safe space', their redemption is to see the United States taught a lesson and brought low, because then they as Americans can finally feel salvation and atonement.

They, are the boogeymen. ISIS is a sideshow.
ISIS is no different than the boogeymen you describe. All are used to herd the sheople for control, profit and power.

These boogeymen you describe wouldn't have the capability to influence a gnat without the full support and backing of those huge and powerful entities that profit from it, which I call (for a lack of a better term) the elite.

They know that as long as they keep us in a state of fear and dependence, while dividing us to keep us fighting amongst ourselves rather than banning together to form a power of our own, they will continue to prosper unabated.
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