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re: Fox Sports: Longhorns need A&M

Posted on 4/15/15 at 5:35 pm to
Posted by oman
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Posted on 4/15/15 at 5:35 pm to
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From the outside, probably. But you have to appreciate the significance of football of this state. texas vs Texas A&M was symbolic of many things. Liberal vs conservative, city vs country, etc. It's a bitter rivalry because it symbolized the struggle for different ways of life. I don't think it's overdramatic to liken it to that because of the uncommon importance placed on football.


Football is important. The UT/A&M game wasn't important the last 20 years. Football will certainly survive without the game being played.

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Going to disagree. Look at academic rankings, enrollment, and things like that over the last 20 years for Texas A&M. Night and day, culminating in this.


I'll assume that you have been keeping tabs on this. From the outside, A&M has maintained its academic reputation but I don't see it as bolstering it significantly over the last 20 years. Out of state students would rather be in Austin. High SAT folks would rather be at Rice. Vet students would rather be at A&M.

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Stanford benefits from a league that has maybe 2-3 serious teams year in and out. Oregon, yall, and maybe a L.A. or Arizona school. I like Stanford and how they play ball, but be honest. It's not the SEC over there.


So I am not sure how that improves your argument that A&M is somehow going to be more relevant. Other than the argument that no one else buys that it is better to be third place in the SEC West than first place in the Pac12 South.
Posted by LegacyAggie
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/15/15 at 5:43 pm to
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Football is important. The UT/A&M game wasn't important the last 20 years. Football will certainly survive without the game being played.


If you scroll back, I clearly say that I don't want to resume it.

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I'll assume that you have been keeping tabs on this. From the outside, A&M has maintained its academic reputation but I don't see it as bolstering it significantly over the last 20 years. Out of state students would rather be in Austin. High SAT folks would rather be at Rice. Vet students would rather be at A&M.


Texas A&M is top 10 in the country in endowments now. We are one of the best in the world for putting people into the Energy industry too. We have a host of extremely strong programs. If you think we are some farm school with a few bright spots in chicken raising and some niche engineering, guess again. Our ranking is skewed by the fact we invest little into our liberal arts areas. They are basically second rate citizens on campus. I could go on and on but frankly, I don't really feel the need to impress you, nor do you really want to hear it.

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So I am not sure how that improves your argument that A&M is somehow going to be more relevant. Other than the argument that no one else buys that it is better to be third place in the SEC West than first place in the Pac12 South.


Think of it this way. Our former student base is huge, and we have invested heavily in building tier one facilities and everything you may want or need to build a Top 5 football program. There is nothing you are lacking here and our budgets outweigh most anyone. We have committed to winning, not just being content with pretty good like in the past.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/15/15 at 5:44 pm to
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Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34358 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 5:44 pm to
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Other than the argument that no one else buys that it is better to be third place in the SEC West than first place in the Pac12 South.


The third place SEC team gets way more national exposure than the second best West Coast team. That isn't debatable, just PAC Network distribution vs the SEC Network can prove that.

But that isn't even the point. The point is that being the third or even fourth best SEC team is 10x better than being third in the Big 12.
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