re: Ted Cruz announces candidacy.

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Marco Rubio is the only Republican with a chance of winning

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i would vote for Rubio over Cruz at this point just due to volatility.


i appreciate the answers here. you and i see eye to eye on politics (moreso social issues) very rarely and it's good to see some rational dialogue from somebody on the other side.

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I also know that while the country finally shifted pro-choice for the first time in a long time but that has a lot to do with young evangelical women being sexually active but using contraception. It's become an issue of personal responsibility to millenials because they are humping away on birth control and taking plan b out of pez dispensers. They aren't seeing friends and family affected by young unplanned pregnancies anymore and it has changed their view. It has nothing to do with increased belief in Evangelism even though some time wish it was.

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i disagree. i just think that the loudest pro-lifers are protesting at planned parenthood and the loudest pro-choice people are sitting on MSNBC, CNN, and the View every day getting front and center dialogue. anybody else espousing the pro-life view gets relegated to "war on women" status. i do think that millenials are being smarter which brings down the discussion a bit, but as a whole i still would wager we are +51 pro life.

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I agree they vote alot but Obama won twice in a row, and while the country is leaning more right on the pro-choice issue, which I attribute to millenials growing use of birth control not increased evangelism, they are moving left everywhere else. The Evangelicals vote a lot but not enough to matter in a Presidential election anymore. They have lost presence and influence among the voting base in swing states. Especially the voting base of the young that only vote in Presidential elections. It wasn't enough in 08 or 12, it won't be enough now.

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Obama won a freebie in 2008. there was literally no candidate that could have beat him on the republican side. and that' OK. I really don't fault people for voting for him in 2008 one iota, especially truly moderate people (not people like 5th in this thread.) 2012 is another issue. Romney, while i think he was a fine middle of the road candidate, had republicans staying at home, and the rest of us holding our noses when we pulled the lever. i'm not saying it's "ok" but if you ran a true blue "i am an atheist/muslim" candidate, evangelicals would turn out in droves.

i do agree we are moving left in a political sense. i mean i'm in my 30s and if you had asked me 10 years ago if i'd ever be in favor of gay marriage or pot legalization, i'd laugh at you. whereas now, i still find both of them morally wrong, but have grown to a stance of not desiring for my morals to be pushed on others when they are no-harm-to-others sin. I don't want to speak for others, but TBird and (i think 808) would fall in line with this line of thinking as well. that is probably the libertarian PoV coming out in us. I think that i can be OK with gay marriage and some drug legalization without condoning the acts themselves. We're obviously becoming a more secular culture as a whole, but to dismiss the Christians is foolish.