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re: I want God to be real.

Posted on 1/19/15 at 12:05 am to
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/19/15 at 12:05 am to
Empty space, which for many people is a good first example of nothing, is actually unstable. Quantum mechanics will allow particles to suddenly pop out of nothing and it doesn't violate any laws of physics.

Just the known laws of quantum mechanics and relativity can produce 400 billion galaxies each containing 100 billion stars and then beyond that it turns out when you apply quantum mechanics to gravity, space itself can arise from nothing, as can time.

It seems impossible but it's completely possible and what is amazing to me is to be asked what would be the characteristics of a universe that came from nothing by laws of physics. It would be precisely the characteristics of the universe we measure.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 12:17 am to
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Empty space, which for many people is a good first example of nothing, is actually unstable. Quantum mechanics will allow particles to suddenly pop out of nothing and it doesn't violate any laws of physics.

Just the known laws of quantum mechanics and relativity can produce 400 billion galaxies each containing 100 billion stars and then beyond that it turns out when you apply quantum mechanics to gravity, space itself can arise from nothing, as can time.

It seems impossible but it's completely possible and what is amazing to me is to be asked what would be the characteristics of a universe that came from nothing by laws of physics. It would be precisely the characteristics of the universe we measure.


There are also a few models in which the universe could have very well started from nothing. I just think we're in our infancy of understanding the universe -- although there seems to be a group of people who think humans are the focal point of it all.
Posted by beejon
University Of Louisiana Warhawks
Member since Nov 2008
7959 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 12:29 am to
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Empty space, which for many people is a good first example of nothing, is actually unstable. Quantum mechanics will allow particles to suddenly pop out of nothing and it doesn't violate any laws of physics.


There is no such thing as empty space.


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Quantum mechanics will allow particles to suddenly pop out of nothing and it doesn't violate any laws of physics.


No it doesn't. 'Quantum soup' isn't nothing.


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Just the known laws of quantum mechanics and relativity can produce 400 billion galaxies each containing 100 billion stars and then beyond that it turns out when you apply quantum mechanics to gravity, space itself can arise from nothing, as can time.


That's not a example of nothing producing something from nothing. Nor is it an example of something producing something from nothing.


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It seems impossible but it's completely possible and what is amazing to me is to be asked what would be the characteristics of a universe that came from nothing by laws of physics. It would be precisely the characteristics of the universe we measure.


There is no universe which came from nothing.


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