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re: I want God to be real.

Posted on 1/19/15 at 12:04 am to
Posted by beejon
University Of Louisiana Warhawks
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/19/15 at 12:04 am to
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This is the stupidest argument you have because you cannot know that.

You're positing that based on our limited knowledge of the universe.

Using human perception to dictate how the universe operates is woefully misguided.


Give an example, within natural laws, of nothing producing something from nothing.

I'm surprised you haven't attempted Krauss' argument by now.
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 12:05 am to
Empty space, which for many people is a good first example of nothing, is actually unstable. Quantum mechanics will allow particles to suddenly pop out of nothing and it doesn't violate any laws of physics.

Just the known laws of quantum mechanics and relativity can produce 400 billion galaxies each containing 100 billion stars and then beyond that it turns out when you apply quantum mechanics to gravity, space itself can arise from nothing, as can time.

It seems impossible but it's completely possible and what is amazing to me is to be asked what would be the characteristics of a universe that came from nothing by laws of physics. It would be precisely the characteristics of the universe we measure.
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