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re: 18 years of fraud at Chapel Hill...

Posted on 1/5/15 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 3:02 pm to
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But at some level almost every major program in college football has at least one guy who barely qualified that has his assigned piece of tutor meat do his work for him.


Two things:

1.) That's a tired stereotype of college athletics that isn't true for all schools.

2.) Just because some other schools are also doing it doesn't excuse those that get caught.

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Heck to me what happened at Chapel Hill is more an example of the farce that is college athletics today, not what it will turn into.


See, I see it as perpetuating what has become a farce and, by taking a hard line on it now, it helps to curb that image for the future. Allowing shite like this to happen on top of refusing to pay athletes on top of paying coaches $1 million and up is killing the sport.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 3:18 pm to
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That's a tired stereotype of college athletics that isn't true for all schools.


VERY few schools have athelete admission standards higher than the NCAA minimum. That means most schools are taking under-qualified athletes (compared to their normal student population), which also means this particular "stereotype" is probably pretty accurate.

Also many schools have majors that are basically made for athletes, whether that is some sort of general degree on some sort of specialized "sports management" scam. So instead of deploying an army of tutors they funnel these kids into degree programs with little real-world value and which deliver a fraction of a normal college education. Where is the indignation over that?

You might be right that none of this is right, but this is an asylum that the inmates literally run. The NCAA is already a very weak organization- if they couldn't bust Miami they can't hammer UNC. They don't have the political support to do so. The list of programs "doing it right" now looks more like exceptions than guideposts, and all those exceptions always eventually hit a ceiling (hello Stanford). At the highest levels you can't afford NOT to cheat, because your competitor probably is and every advantage counts.

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See, I see it as perpetuating what has become a farce and, by taking a hard line on it now, it helps to curb that image for the future. Allowing shite like this to happen on top of refusing to pay athletes on top of paying coaches $1 million and up is killing the sport.



The amatuar nature of college football is already dead, and its not something that died within the last couple of years. It died when Notre Dame got that first huge NBC deal and ever since then we have been waiting for the corpse to rot. The idea of stopping academic cheating in college football, or even outright bagmen, is quant. At this point that is minor league stuff, the real players have a legal team (A&M), or a police department (FSU), defending them like a country's military can sometimes end up being the bodyguard service for a dictator.

When you Georgia fans enter the post-Richt era yall are going to be shocked at how dirty it all is. Basketball is even worse.
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