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re: #BlackLivesMatter shutting down a major intersection in Louisville right now

Posted on 12/20/14 at 6:24 pm to
Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Posted on 12/20/14 at 6:24 pm to
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I think the larger issue is that protesting police brutality against the black community is just a very flimsy bandaid on some much larger issues within the black community.


Which I'm not disagreeing with, but that doesn't simultaneously invalidate complaints about it. Again my feeling towards this is that cops can be insecure pricks, and if race is a factor, it's simply because they feel more comfortable acting our their little man syndrome. Like that guy getting choked to death over cigarettes was just ridiculous. Seriously.


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The reinforcement of a culture that prides itself on crime like running drugs, abusing women, and "not snitching" through multiple generations at this point is eating their community from within.


That's a generalization. Does every member of the black community do this? No. Does it happen? Absolutely. Does the white community vilifying these protests and highlighting points like this further reinforce the "us vs them" mentality? I think it does.

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Not saying that police should be above reproach.


Absolutely they shouldn't. If statistics have suggested that complaints against police officers have gone down by up to 90% when cops wear cameras.


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But we should maybe be asking how these kids/young men got into a situation where a cop could take them out to begin with.



Possibly. I think that's a valid truth, and it holds up in a lot of scenarios. The Ferguson thing seems like he robbed a store and went after the kids gun. The guy in NYC was choked to death for selling cigarettes. That's not about a young man putting himself in any sort of scenario where life threatening police action should be assumed at any point.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 12/20/14 at 6:34 pm to
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Which I'm not disagreeing with, but that doesn't simultaneously invalidate complaints about it. Again my feeling towards this is that cops can be insecure pricks, and if race is a factor, it's simply because they feel more comfortable acting our their little man syndrome. Like that guy getting choked to death over cigarettes was just ridiculous. Seriously.



The problem is that right now, at least among the mainstream, the only complaint coming from the black community is finger pointing at everyone else (i.e. white cops) doing their community wrong. I haven't seen anything to legitimate address on a large scale the issues that are fostering the attitude that it's ok to gun down police officers in NYC because of a young black man killed by a cop in Ferguson.

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That's a generalization. Does every member of the black community do this? No. Does it happen? Absolutely. Does the white community vilifying these protests and highlighting points like this further reinforce the "us vs them" mentality? I think it does.


Vilifying? The protesters in Ferguson burned down their own community. The protesters here are committing an illegal act by obstructing traffic (and that could be a safety issue in that area as well). Facts aren't vilifying anything. And it absolutely feeds into stereotypes that the black community should be fighting against that devalues their complaints.

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Possibly. I think that's a valid truth, and it holds up in a lot of scenarios. The Ferguson thing seems like he robbed a store and went after the kids gun. The guy in NYC was choked to death for selling cigarettes. That's not about a young man putting himself in any sort of scenario where life threatening police action should be assumed at any point.



So the man that was choked in NYC didn't resist arrest?
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