re: Did Famous Jameis have similar problems at Hueytown?

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I am sorry Auburn, really I am. You guys are freaking snake bitten. I am LSU fan but thought that once we got rid of Kiffen this crap was going to settle down, and I also pull for the SEC in the NC race and OOC games. This is unfair to your fans but a few bad apples can spoil the barrel and res ipsa loquitur. Don't shoot me this is what I am hearing in Mississippi. There are tapes, they were handed over to NCAA about a week or so ago. (It is legal to tape a two party conversation in Mississippi as long as one party consents.) I suspect but can not confirm that they were made by an attorney who is a MSU alum. (No names for now) The alternative is that a coach made them with the attorney's involvement. It was to protect MSU I am told. They likely were not turned over early because there was little or no activity in the investigation. Why, no clue. When it was feared than Newton would win Heisman or Auburn the NC, then be possibly stripped of titles they got their arse in gear to prevent another PR diaster. (Assumption plus little info here.) ESPN has heard the tapes, that is why they are so hot on this. They have or will be been turned over to FBI, which is why they are now involved. The tapes involve interstate communication thus they have jurisdiction. 200k is serious enough to involve them. NCAA has requested their involvement to get to bottom of this quickly. (They have subpoena power, and arrest power.) There are more people talking and a lot more evidence in play that has not been publically disclosed. (DUH) It is important to remember that is is an NCAA rules infraction investigation not a court of law. You do not have the rules of evidence, and the burden is whatever is stated in the NCCA rules but is not going to be "beyond a reasonable doubt" as in a criminal trial or likely "clear and convincing" evidence but almost certainly something akin to "prepondence of the evidence" which means probably or more likely that not. (I HAVE LOOKED EVERYWHERE INCLUDING CONGRESSIONAL HEARING INVESTIGATION AND CANT FIND THEIR BURDEN OF PROOF ANYWHERE, but the tapes will equal preponderence once they are properly authenticated. I assume that is purpose of the meeting of the FBI and John Bond, or to do that or get background. I also cant find any due process rights within NCAA other than implied duty to follow own rules and those that apply though US constitution. Thus, You are not innocent until proven guilty, have right to attorney, etc. It is not a court room and is all done behind a curtain. If info on tapes is correct, it is game, set and match. All that is left is to ID booster for lifetime ban.

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