re: I'm going to bed, but before I do.

Neither team is all that great IMO.

We deserve all the shite thrown at us (for losing to Indiana), but to be fair...with Golden out, all IU did was run away from Ray. With those guys on either end...no way they end up doing that.

Regardless...We had 1/2 our O-Line out, we were trotting out walk ons at Wide Receiver, in a scheme that demands big, tall WR's running all sorts of crazy arse routes. Also, our best running back was out for 1/2 the game as well. (The guy that scored all 3 TD's)

We're not going to win the East, and we may not even break 7 wins...but in a transition year...we've learned how to win, which is something we couldn't do worth a shite from the 60's through about 7 years ago.

We'll never be Carolina's main rival, but I do enjoy pissing everybody off.

See ya'll in hell.