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re: Most Academically Improved SEC Schools

Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:19 am to
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:19 am to
MSU and Ole Miss are so much better than these types of numbers generally indicate, it's ridiculous...

We have had Court-Mandated low admission standards(Ayers Case) -- which lets in students that don't belong -- that promptly fall out when they can't handle the workload. Low admission standards + high dropout rate = double whammy to "college rankings"...

That said, there are rumors that the terms set forth in the Ayers case are finally crumbling, and that MSU and OM will be free to raise admission standards in the near future.
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:21 am to
Shut up engie. You go to the worst school in the conference. Everyone knows it. Stop trying to make yourself feel better.


Just messing bro. Don't track me down and hurt me.
This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 9:28 am
Posted by dlc83
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
1837 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:26 am to
Agree about MSU and OM.

GaTech is also very much underrated due to its STEM focus. Student happiness is also a big factor in the rankings as well as (as you mentioned) drop out rates. Lot's of kids historically flunk out of GaTech due to the rigorous curriculum. I would imagine this impacts schools like A&M and Purdue to name two.

In contrast, all students get A's at the Ivy's/Duke, etc. and thus don't flunk out and are "happy" and satisfied with their college experience.

I don't have a problem with the rankings, it's just the slavish devotion to them by colleges and some applicants.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18169 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:14 am to
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That said, there are rumors that the terms set forth in the Ayers case are finally crumbling, and that MSU and OM will be free to raise admission standards in the near future.


Yep, the HBCUs have to get to a certain level of white enrollment by 2017. They aren't even close. Jackson State opened an adult campus less than 20 miles from their main campus in Madison in hopes of getting more white students. Didn't work.

The whites in the Jackson metro that are working on graduate degrees either do it online, at MC, or at Belhaven. They aren't going to JSU. Plus, the Tulane campus in Madison is just not doing that well - they don't offer degrees that people want.

When the restrictions of the Ayers case are killed, I hope MSU and Ole Miss raise their standards to the rest of their peers in the SEC. No way a kid with a 2.0 high school GPA and a 16 should be able to get into an SEC university.

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