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re: Does anyone actually believe this

Posted on 7/6/14 at 5:54 pm to
Posted by Stacked
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Posted on 7/6/14 at 5:54 pm to
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Geza Vermes has performed a detailed analysis of the Testimonium and modified it to remove what he considers the interpolations.


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James Dunn states that the works of Josephus include two separate references to Jesus and although there are some interpolations in the Testimonium, there is "broad consensus" among scholars regarding the nature of an authentic reference to Jesus in the Testimonium and what the passage would look like without the interpolations.


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Blomberg adds that after the removal of these three elements (which are likely interpolations) from the Greek versions the remaining passage fits well with the Arabic version and supports the authenticity of the reference to the execution of Jesus by Pilate.


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I really don't know what else I can give at this point.


I don't know what you're trying to give in the first place. Sounds like each of the quotes you've given agree that while interpolations may have occurred, the authenticity to the reference of Jesus remains authentic.
This post was edited on 7/6/14 at 6:03 pm
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 7/6/14 at 5:55 pm to
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Geza Vermes has performed a detailed analysis of the Testimonium and modified it to remove what he considers the interpolations.


"The general scholarly view is that while the Testimonium Flavianum is most likely not authentic in its entirety, it is broadly agreed upon that it originally consisted of an authentic nucleus, which was then subject to Christian interpolation or forgery."

"Alright Straws, got me there."
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 7/6/14 at 6:26 pm to
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I don't know what you're trying to give in the first place. Sounds like each of the quotes you've given agree that while interpolations may have occurred, the authenticity to the reference of Jesus remains authentic.



But why are they authentic? How did they determine this, and how did they determine the interpolations? Do you really believe that early founders of Christianity didn't try to change shite around?

Everything around Jesus has been muddled. The references are almost exact copies of each other, like how most religions get started. Repetition.
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