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re: If ya voted for Osama, errr, Obama and you regret check in

Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:15 am to
Posted by AUCatfish
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:15 am to
Hunter, I could make a list of scandals that dogged the Reagan administration as well.....Savings & Loan debacle, Iran-Contra, bid rigging by HUD to favor donors to his campaign, the US's intervention in Lebanon to name a few.

The sad fact is that every president does shitty things or is at least blamed for them. I don't say that to give Obama a pass, but to point out that it's nothing new.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:28 am to
Which violated the Constitutional Rights of citizens on such a gross scale?

Fast and Furious broke many laws, and resulted in several mass murders.

IRS scandals involve the FBI and DoJ and targeted 1st Amendment Rights of individuals.

Benghazi (likely a CIA weapons swap coverup) resulted in death of an Ambassador and massive coverup from it.

NSA spying, show me any President that has had such a massive spying program on its citizens.

Obamacare, will prove to be worse than any entitlement program that exists today.

Holder and the DoJ targeting businesses through threats against banking practices, that they deem their enemies.

Also, show me another President, that through every single scandal, has claimed to have learned about it from news reports, and regularly skips National Security briefings.

There's no doubt, every President has had issues and problems under their terms. None equal the criminality and incompetence of the one that is currently going on.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:39 am to
quote:

The sad fact is that every president does shitty things or is at least blamed for them. I don't say that to give Obama a pass, but to point out that it's nothing new.



One thing I've come to realize is for the opposite party of the sitting president, the buck stops with him on all the terrible stuff that's happened under every president. Dems did it when W was in office, Reps did it when Clinton was in office, etc., etc. It does seem to be ramped up under Obama though.
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