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re: Baseball Power Rankings Guest Vote Thread: Week 6
Posted on 4/21/14 at 5:08 pm to kilo
Posted on 4/21/14 at 5:08 pm to kilo
quote:Sorry kilo, you've been DQ'd
1. Alabama
2. Florida
3. Ole Miss
4. Missouri
5. South Carolina
6. LSU
7. Vanderbilt
8. Kentucky
9. Mississippi State
10. Georgia
11. Arkansas
12. Texas A&M
13. Tennessee
14. Auburn
seriously
Posted on 4/21/14 at 5:09 pm to The Nino
quote:
Sorry kilo, you've been DQ'd
I tried, I tried.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 5:22 pm to Hawgeye
quote:
Arkansas has 10 wins against RPI top 50 teams Alabama has 8 wins against RPI top 50 teams
Arkansas 10-10 vs top 50
Bama 9-6 vs top 50
quote:
Alabama has played the 6th place team from the East, 7th place team in West, 6th place team in West, 3rd place team in East and 3rd place team in West.
SOS
Bama - 26
Ark - 47
Games against 100+
Bama- 14
Ark - 17
Posted on 4/21/14 at 5:30 pm to Hawgeye
quote:RPI
Arkansas has 8 wins against top 25 RPI teams
Alabama has 6 wins against top 25 RPI teams
Arkansas has 10 wins against RPI top 50 teams
Alabama has 8 wins against RPI top 50 teams
Arkansas won the series against Alabama.
Alabama has played the 6th place team from the East, 7th place team in West, 6th place team in West, 3rd place team in East and 3rd place team in West.
Alabama - 16
Arkansas - 50
Conference Record
Alabama - 12-6
Arkansas - 9-9
Record vs. Top 50 RPI
Alabama - 9-6
Arkansas - 10-10
Record vs. 100+ RPI
Alabama - 12-2
Arkansas - 14-3
Last 10
Alabama - 7-3
Arkansas - 6-4
Series W-L
Alabama - 8-2
Arkansas - 5-4
Posted on 4/21/14 at 5:35 pm to ell_13
It's not hard to inflate rankings when you play a weak league schedule.
Arkansas did it a year ago.
Alabama has played arguably the easiest opening half schedule in the league.
Arkansas did it a year ago.
Alabama has played arguably the easiest opening half schedule in the league.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 5:39 pm to Hawgeye
1. Fla
2. LSU
3. South Carolina
4. Ole Miss
5. Bama
6. Miss State
7. Vandy
8. Kentucky
9. Georgia
10. Arkansas
11. Texas A&M
12. Auburn
13. Tenn
14. Missouri
2. LSU
3. South Carolina
4. Ole Miss
5. Bama
6. Miss State
7. Vandy
8. Kentucky
9. Georgia
10. Arkansas
11. Texas A&M
12. Auburn
13. Tenn
14. Missouri
Posted on 4/21/14 at 5:41 pm to The Nino
1.Florida
2. South Carolina
3. Alabama
4. Vandy
5.Ole Miss
6. Kentucky
7. MSU
8. LSU
9. UGA
10. Ark
11. Tennessee
12. aTm
13. Mizzou
14. Auburn
2. South Carolina
3. Alabama
4. Vandy
5.Ole Miss
6. Kentucky
7. MSU
8. LSU
9. UGA
10. Ark
11. Tennessee
12. aTm
13. Mizzou
14. Auburn
Posted on 4/21/14 at 5:44 pm to Hawgeye
You were putting out numbers (facts), so I did too. My biggest issue with Ark is the 4 series losses regardless of who they're against: LSU, State, Florida, and South Alabama. Nothing to be ashamed of, but it's still a high amount. Bama has two: Ark and ULL and both of them were earlier in the season. We're talking "Power Rankings" here so trend is just as important. I'm not arguing that they will fall off once the schedule gets tougher, but we can't presume anything about those games. For all we know Ark could go 4-8 to finish just as easily as Bama could go 8-4.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 5:46 pm to Gcockboi
quote:LSU at 8? Okay...
1.Florida
2. South Carolina
3. Alabama
4. Vandy
5.Ole Miss
6. Kentucky
7. MSU
8. LSU
9. UGA
10. Ark
11. Tennessee
12. aTm
13. Mizzou
14. Auburn
Missouri at 13? Not legit!
Posted on 4/21/14 at 5:56 pm to ell_13
So, it doesn't matter who a team plays? Okay.....ignore the fact that Arkansas has played the 2nd most top 50 teams in the league, which is 5 more than Alabama.
Sure Arkansas has lost series to LSU, Florida, and State. Of those 6 losses, 4 were by one run and one of those was a walk off in game two of a series.
There is a three game difference in Alabama and Arkansas. That slim of a margin is the difference in scheduling,,,,While Alabama has played Auburn, Tennessee, Texas A&M, Kentucky, and Ole Miss.....Arkansas has had to deal with Florida. South Carolina, LSU, Vanderbilt, Mississippi State, and a series win over Alabama. Every league team Arkansas has played has been ranked. Five of those in the top 13.
Arkansas being 9-9 at this point is more impressive than Alabama being 12-6, when comparing league competition.
Yes, these are power ranking and trends are considered, but so is your level of competition. Over the last 3 weeks Arkansas has gone 6-5 against teams all ranked inside the top 17 of polls.
Alabama hasn't played a ranked opponent in three weeks, while Arkansas has played South Carolina, UNLV, LSU, and Vanderbilt.
Sure Arkansas has lost series to LSU, Florida, and State. Of those 6 losses, 4 were by one run and one of those was a walk off in game two of a series.
There is a three game difference in Alabama and Arkansas. That slim of a margin is the difference in scheduling,,,,While Alabama has played Auburn, Tennessee, Texas A&M, Kentucky, and Ole Miss.....Arkansas has had to deal with Florida. South Carolina, LSU, Vanderbilt, Mississippi State, and a series win over Alabama. Every league team Arkansas has played has been ranked. Five of those in the top 13.
Arkansas being 9-9 at this point is more impressive than Alabama being 12-6, when comparing league competition.
Yes, these are power ranking and trends are considered, but so is your level of competition. Over the last 3 weeks Arkansas has gone 6-5 against teams all ranked inside the top 17 of polls.
Alabama hasn't played a ranked opponent in three weeks, while Arkansas has played South Carolina, UNLV, LSU, and Vanderbilt.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 6:04 pm to Hawgeye
I don't care about the 1-run losses. If anything, that just shows you can't win the close ones. And the series win against Bama isn't as significant as you are making it. Should Vanderbilt be ahead of LSU???
Finally, i never said it doesn't matter who you play. My point was that Ark isn't consistently beating good teams in a series. Will Bama? That remains to be seen. But they've handled their business so far and they deserve to be up there above Ark.
Finally, i never said it doesn't matter who you play. My point was that Ark isn't consistently beating good teams in a series. Will Bama? That remains to be seen. But they've handled their business so far and they deserve to be up there above Ark.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 6:20 pm to ell_13
Arkansas isn't beating good teams in series?
South Carolina, Vanderbilt, and Alabama are now all bad teams?
Those three series victories alone are more impressive than what Alabama has done to this point.
Why would Vandy be above LSU? Vandy has lost consecutive series, LSU has not.
South Carolina, Vanderbilt, and Alabama are now all bad teams?
Those three series victories alone are more impressive than what Alabama has done to this point.
Why would Vandy be above LSU? Vandy has lost consecutive series, LSU has not.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 6:39 pm to The Nino
LSU 30-10
South Carolina 30-10
Ole Miss 30-11
Vanderbilt 29-12
Alabama 28-12
Florida 27-13
Kentucky 26-14
Mississippi State 26-15
Tennessee 25-13
Arkansas 25-16
Texas A&M 24-17
Georgia 21-18
Auburn 22-19
Missouri 17-21
South Carolina 30-10
Ole Miss 30-11
Vanderbilt 29-12
Alabama 28-12
Florida 27-13
Kentucky 26-14
Mississippi State 26-15
Tennessee 25-13
Arkansas 25-16
Texas A&M 24-17
Georgia 21-18
Auburn 22-19
Missouri 17-21
Posted on 4/21/14 at 6:45 pm to Hawgeye
quote:There's a reason I used the word "consistently". It implies that they do beat good teams...
Arkansas isn't beating good teams in series?
South Carolina, Vanderbilt, and Alabama are now all bad teams?
quote:They beat LSU... just like Arkansas beat Bama. Sounds like a solid argument according to you.
Why would Vandy be above LSU? Vandy has lost consecutive series, LSU has not.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 6:59 pm to ell_13
No, that's not my argument at all
Arkansas being 9-9 with their schedule, being 6-4 over their last 10 games, all against opponents ranked #17 or higher. COUPLED with the fact Arkansas won the head to head series.
That, in my opinion is more impressive than Alabama only being 3 games up on Arkansas while having played.....Auburn, Texas A&M, Tennessee, Kentucky, Ole Miss, and Arkansas.
Arkansas being 9-9 with their schedule, being 6-4 over their last 10 games, all against opponents ranked #17 or higher. COUPLED with the fact Arkansas won the head to head series.
That, in my opinion is more impressive than Alabama only being 3 games up on Arkansas while having played.....Auburn, Texas A&M, Tennessee, Kentucky, Ole Miss, and Arkansas.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 7:16 pm to Gcockboi
quote:
1.Florida 2. South Carolina 3. Alabama 4. Vandy 5.Ole Miss 6. Kentucky 7. MSU 8. LSU 9. UGA 10. Ark 11. Tennessee 12. aTm 13. Mizzou 14. Auburn
Might want to switch these
Posted on 4/21/14 at 7:17 pm to Hawgeye
quote:Then it is part of your argument. I know it's not the only piece. I was just exaggerating to make my point that you seemed not to understand.
COUPLED with the fact Arkansas won the head to head series.
quote:Auburn is the only consistently bad team here. The other 5 have played very well at times.
Auburn, Texas A&M, Tennessee, Kentucky, Ole Miss, and Arkansas
RPI and Result:
Auburn - 57 - W
A&M - 63 - W
Tenn - 26 - W
Kentucky - 11 - W
Ole Miss - 9 - W
Ark - 51 - L
Ark Opponent RPI and Result:
LSU - 13 - L
Florida - 1 - L
USC - 4 - W
Miss St. - 40 - L
Alabama - 16 - W
Vanderbilt - 15 - W
Y'all have 3 wins vs. top 16. They have 2 with Tennessee just outside the top 25. Y'all have a loss to Miss St with 2 other losses to top teams. Their "bad" loss is to you guys. Like I keep saying. They have taken care of business so far and completely deserve where they are.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 7:26 pm to ell_13
Alabama is about to face a tough remaining schedule
@ South Carolina
vs Florida
@ LSU
vs Mississippi State
Just brutal
@ South Carolina
vs Florida
@ LSU
vs Mississippi State
Just brutal
Posted on 4/21/14 at 7:28 pm to Hillbilly Joe
Georgia's is almost as bad.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 7:38 pm to The Nino
1. Florida
2. Alabama
3. LSU LSU pulls out of Oxford with the series while Mark Laird puts it in an Ole Miss ball girl.
4. USC
5. Ole Miss
6. Vandy
7. Kentucky
8. Georgia
9. Miss St
10. Arkansas
11. Tennessee
12. Auburn
13. Texas A&M
14. Mizzou
2. Alabama
3. LSU LSU pulls out of Oxford with the series while Mark Laird puts it in an Ole Miss ball girl.
4. USC
5. Ole Miss
6. Vandy
7. Kentucky
8. Georgia
9. Miss St
10. Arkansas
11. Tennessee
12. Auburn
13. Texas A&M
14. Mizzou
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