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re: Sig bet between cards and Royals fans?

Posted on 3/27/14 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 1:30 pm to
Bullpens? Not breaking it down because I don't think it needs to be broken down. Suffice it to say:

Maness/Choate/Siegrist/Martinez/Rosenthal > Coleman/Bueno/Herrera/Davis/Collins/Crow/Holland

Advantage: Cardinals

Benches?

Descalsio/Ellis/Kozma/Jay/Robinson > Valencio/Ciriaco/Butler/Maxwell/Dyson

Advantage: Cardinals
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 1:31 pm to
Nikki...tell me where I'm wrong.
Posted by TigerNick23
Member since Dec 2013
2326 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 4:32 pm to
quote:

Bullpens? Not breaking it down because I don't think it needs to be broken down. Suffice it to say: Maness/Choate/Siegrist/Martinez/Rosenthal > Coleman/Bueno/Herrera/Davis/Collins/Crow/Holland Advantage: Royals


Let me break it down so you can understand what you're saying is completely irrational.

Closers
All star Greg Holland
1.21ERA 0.87 WHIP 18BB's103SO's 47 SVS 3.1 WAR 3BLSV's

Trevor Rosenthal[/b]
2.66 ERA 1.10 WHIP 20BB's 108 SO's 29 hld's 1.4 WAR


Advantage Royals: Greg Holland was more efficient in his save opportunities, accounted for a higher WAR, and had less chances to save games considering the Cardinals won 15 more games than the Royals last season


Primary Setup man


Louis Coleman

0.61 ERA 0.84WHIP 6BB's 32SO's 4HLD's 1.2 WAR

Carolos Martinez

5.08 ERA 1.41 WHIP 9BB's 24 SO's 1 SV -0.2 WAR


Advantage: Royals Negative war usually means you cost your teams more wins than you were worth to your club

Secondary Setup man:
Wade Davis (stats are reflective of one full season in relief, no starts with Rays)
2.43 ERA 1.09 WHIP 29BB's 87SO's 7 hld's
1.4 WAR

Kevin Siergest
0.45 ERA 0.88WHIP 18BB's 50SO's 11HLD's 2.0 WAR

Advantage: Cardinals although he only has 39 inning pitching in relief so a small sample size.


Secondary Setup man

Aaron Crow:
3.38 ERA 1.48WHIP 22BB's 44SO's 19HLD's 0.3 WAR

Seth Maness:
2.32 ERA 1.26 WHIP 13BB's 35 SO's 15HLD's 1.6 WAR

Advantage: Cardinals









Lefty matchups
Tim Collins
3.54 ERA 1.44 WHIP 24 BB's 54SO's 21 hld's -0.2 WAR

Randy Choate
2.29 ERA 1.05 WHIP 11BB's 28SO's 15 HLD's 1.2 WAR

Advantage: Slightly Cardinals, but a 38 year old relief pitcher will likely not repeat this performance, and Collins appeared to be in more high leverage situation given he has 6 more holds than Choate.



Other Relief pitchers

Bueno:
1.61 ERA 1.07 WHIP 5BB's 13 SO's 5HLD's 0.6 WAR

Advantage Royals: Having an extra arm in the bullpen is always helpful in keeping the bullpen fresh


Overall Advantage: Royals

Best closer, 3 potential setup man to go to at any time during the long season if one is not getting the job done effectively. Two extra arms also adds depth to the bullpen. Don't forget the Royals had the best bullpen in the MLB last season with the lowest ERA


This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 4:34 pm
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