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re: moral equivalency? hunh vs flopping
Posted on 3/9/14 at 12:38 pm to narddogg81
Posted on 3/9/14 at 12:38 pm to narddogg81
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A little poll. Who here is for hunh and their ability to exploit the rules to the fullest to gain offensive advantages such as stopping defensive substitution, putting pressure on the officials, etc, yet find the idea of defensive players Dropping for less than traumatic injuries reprehensible? Its just within the rules (how does a player know whether he is having heat stroke or is just tired? Hes not a doctor, why chance it? ). How many of you would be screaming for a new rule to stop it if it suddenly became prevalent? How many of the brave coaches championing the current set of rules would be screaming for a new rule? Ill hang up and listen.
As much as I detest this post for being incredibly whiny, I'll give my opinion:
The HUNH (i.e. snapping the ball as quickly as possible) doesn't violate any rules nor is it unethical. It provides the offense an advantage, but it isn't an unfair one. If they don't substitute, the defense isn't going to get a good opportunity to substitute either. Both parties have the same amount of time pre-snap to prepare for play.
Faking an injury, however, does provide what I'd argue is an unfair advantage. And if you want to argue that it isn't an unfair advantage, then I'd argue it is most certainly unethical, and I believe someone posted an excerpt before where it is officially given the description of unethical by the ruling parties of college football.
Therefore, while I believe phrases such as "exploit the rules" make your premise a very flawed one, anyone that argues that they want to preserve the integrity of the game but in the same breath argues that faking injuries is what they'd advocate because fast paced offenses aren't going away is taking contradictory stances.
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Posted on 3/9/14 at 12:43 pm to Ross
I agree Ross. I think the NCAA should go back to the old clock rules though.
Posted on 3/9/14 at 1:06 pm to Ross
quote:exploit is the proper term, because what is at issue, hunh offenses lining up immediately before the play is called, freezing defensive personnel on the field with the threat of a snap (often times before the play is called) was an unintended consequence of a previous rule change was designed to shorten games. Was an implementation of the nfl clock rule but failed to include other nfl rules abd procedures that regulate personal activities. I'm not blaming the hunh coaches for sniffing it out and exploiting it, but I think its problem that needs addressing. A clock rule that changes the nature of the game in unintended ways and confers an advantage to one side that didn't previously exist should be changed or there should be other rules to rectify. That's why this is a rules question in the first place, because a rule change caused the situation in the first place
Therefore, while I believe phrases such as "exploit the rules" make your premise a very flawed one
Posted on 3/9/14 at 4:52 pm to Ross
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The HUNH (i.e. snapping the ball as quickly as possible) doesn't violate any rules nor is it unethical. It provides the offense an advantage, but it isn't an unfair one. If they don't substitute, the defense isn't going to get a good opportunity to substitute either. Both parties have the same amount of time pre-snap to prepare for play.
Faking an injury, however, does provide what I'd argue is an unfair advantage. And if you want to argue that it isn't an unfair advantage, then I'd argue it is most certainly unethical, and I believe someone posted an excerpt before where it is officially given the description of unethical by the ruling parties of college football.
Therefore, while I believe phrases such as "exploit the rules" make your premise a very flawed one, anyone that argues that they want to preserve the integrity of the game but in the same breath argues that faking injuries is what they'd advocate because fast paced offenses aren't going away is taking contradictory stances.
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my team does not and probably will not use the HUNH but the objections raised to it and the intent by some (including my team) to use fake injuries to slow it down is detestable and should be removed from the game by enforcement of already existing rules.
If the respect for the not faking injury rule is inadequate then they rule should be enforced by making any player who stops the game clock because of injury stay out of the game for a sustained period of time. If it is about player safety then they need time for the medical staff to evaluate player. If the player is essential then the team can call a time out and potentially preserve their ability to leave the player in the game (if he is able to play).
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