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re: The slowdown rule does NOT affect only a couple of plays per game

Posted on 2/26/14 at 7:34 pm to
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 7:34 pm to
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offenses are not more restricted presnap regarding substitutions


They aren't? Let me ask you this, are there any rules for substitution for the offense? For the defense? If so, what are they?

Your answer will tell me if you know anything.

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it is true that most of the rules restricting offensive motion were put in place because of abuse of the current rules presnap to get extra penalties called on the defense


Hmmm, is that kind of like when teams would motion and try to get the d to jump offsides and stuff?

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the offense is more restricted in where people line up on the field, ie so many on the los and in the backfield,


So you admit one? What about now?

Tell me basically what rules must the d adhere to pre snap and what must the o? Count them up and get back to me.
This post was edited on 2/26/14 at 7:44 pm
Posted by narddogg81
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 7:59 pm to
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They aren't? Let me ask you this, are there any rules for substitution for the offense? For the defense? If so, what are they?

Your answer will tell me if you know anything.
the only thing i can think of is that the defense can briefly have more than 11 field to anticipate offensive formations, whereas the offense cant break huddle with more than 11 or have more than 11 in the huddle for more than 3 seconds, or possibly you are referring to this excerpt about timing once the o has substituted, providing time for the d to substitute as well

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'While in the process of substitution or simulated substitution, Team A is prohibited from rushing quickly to the line of scrimmage with the obvious attempt of creating a defensive disadvantage. If the ball is ready for play, the game officials will not permit the ball to be snapped until Team B has placed substitutes in position and replaced players have left the field of play. Team B must react promptly with its substitutes'


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Tell me basically what rules must the d adhere to pre snap and what must the o? Count them up and get back to me.
who ever said the d had to adhere to more rules presnap than the o? the reason there are so many presnap rules on the o is because they have the ball, they know the play, they know the snap count. the defense has to be able to be free to react. its always been that way, or at least under modern rules. the defense is reactive, so the rules are on the offense becasue they are the ones with control over that stuff. everybody flipped their shite when someone suggests an additional tiny presnap rule adjustment, which would be only one of many, and in response propose rules that would completely change the way defenses work and have worked for over 50 years and try to equate them. getting rid of the meerkat oline is not equivalent to eliminating blitzing or making defenses adhere to motion rules. one is a tiny adjustment to existing rules, one is a complete change of how defense has worked.
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