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re: UNC Admits Academic Fraud: Lack Of Institutional Controls, *NCAA Issues 3rd NOA

Posted on 3/23/15 at 3:29 pm to
Posted by CockInYourEar
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/23/15 at 3:29 pm to
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When UNC gets away with this, they will officially be bulletproof, and the NCAA will have lost all credibility in all matters, forever.


That's basically the bottom line in this. I too think unc is going to get away with this on some technicality or some thing where the NCAA points at SACS and SACS points at the NCAA (jurisdictional confusion/hand-washing.)

IF unc gets away with it, it opens the door for every single school to unofficially open up jock classes/degrees (if they don't have them already.) The ones that do have those classes/degrees will not have to worry so much about getting caught, b/c a precedent was set that 'nothing is going to happen.'
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 4/2/15 at 3:39 pm to
https://www.cnn.com/2015/04/01/sport/ncaa-response-to-lawsuit/index.html

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(CNN)After years of making the case that the education of athletes is paramount, the NCAA now says it has no legal responsibility to make sure education is actually delivered.

https://www.ncaa.org/about/what-we-do/academics, "It's our commitment -- and our responsibility -- to give young people opportunities to learn, play and succeed." And later, it says that "in the collegiate model of sports, the young men and women competing on the field or court are students first, athletes second."

But the NCAA is taking a very different position in response to a lawsuit filed by former University of North Carolina athletes. The lawsuit claimed the students didn't get an education because they were caught up in the largest known academic fraud scandal in NCAA history.

In its response, the NCAA says it has no legal responsibility "to ensure the academic integrity of the courses offered to student-athletes at its member institutions."

Even with pages of online information about academic standards, and even though the NCAA has established a system of academic eligibility and accountability that it boasts of regularly, NCAA attorneys wrote in this court filing that "the NCAA did not assume a duty to ensure the quality of the education of student-athletes," and "the NCAA does not have 'direct, day-to-day, operational control' " over member institutions like UNC.

"It's nonsense. It's double talk," said Gerald Gurney, a former athletic-academic director who is now president of The Drake Group for academic integrity in collegiate sport.

"If you look at their basic core principles, it's all about academics, the experience, the integration of academics, and the education of the student is paramount," Gurney said. "They seem to talk out of both sides of their mouths."



Basically what I thought. The NCAA isn't going to do anything to UNC, they are going to say it's an issue for SACS Accreditation (Southern Association of Colleges and Schools.) However, SACS already said that they didn't know how to handle this based on the scope of the fraud (3,100 students in fake classes for 20 years.) However, there were 31 grad students who got a Masters in Education degree from HBC Barber Scotia College and SACS removed their accreditation...so I think they know what they are supposed to do...but they think UNC is just 'Too Big To Fail.'
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