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re: Which SEC school brings the least to the conference?

Posted on 12/27/13 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by tween the hedges
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Posted on 12/27/13 at 12:02 pm to
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This isn't Ole Miss or State's fault.

ETA: State government has mandated that we set admissions ridiculously low so any retard that wants to attend can.

So what do you recommend? They drive up admissions standards and then have an almost empty class size?

Seems like it's more that there is poor education in Mississippi and it's only appeal to out of state students is good parties and good looking girls.
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 12/27/13 at 12:05 pm to
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So what do you recommend? They drive up admissions standards and then have an almost empty class size?

Seems like it's more that there is poor education in Mississippi and it's only appeal to out of state students is good parties and good looking girls.

I have no recommendations.
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 12/27/13 at 1:44 pm to
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Seems like it's more that there is poor education in Mississippi and it's only appeal to out of state students is good parties and good looking girls.



Low admissions standards =\= poor education

There are a lot of great opportunities for students at Ole Miss and Mississippi State. Just because the schools admit a lot of people who don't take advantage of them doesn't mean they aren't there.

I mean, Ole Miss has produced 25 Rhodes Scholars. That's more than Georgia. It's not like there aren't smart, successful students that are Ole Miss Rebels.
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 12/27/13 at 1:48 pm to
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So what do you recommend? They drive up admissions standards and then have an almost empty class size?



That's exactly what I recommend.

The average incoming ACT at Ole Miss is a 24, but pretty much anybody with an 18 can get in (again, due to state policy and not Ole Miss' standards). If they could bump that minimum ACT to something like a 20 or 21, they would be able to weed out a lot of the frickups who have no business in higher ed anyway, and you wouldn't have "an almost empty class size" at all.

It also bears mentioning that ~50% of Ole Miss incoming freshmen graduate in four years. So many people fail out or take too long to get degrees because they, frankly, should be at a community college or vocational school.
Posted by engie
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Posted on 12/27/13 at 2:03 pm to
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So what do you recommend? They drive up admissions standards and then have an almost empty class size?


You don't have a fricking clue what you are talking about.

The people that survive the first year at MSU and OM have a high graduation rate and are competitive in their areas of expertise with anyone in the country.

Forced low admission standards doesn't mean forced easy curriculums. What we have is low admission standards followed by very high early dropout rates for kids not fit to be there in the first place. Double whammy -- ranked lowly in these "reports" that don't consider how this circular logic screws the MS schools. Nor do they accurately or adequately convey the actual quality of education available at MSU and OM.
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