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re: POLL: Will the US default?
Posted on 10/16/13 at 11:06 am to Duke
Posted on 10/16/13 at 11:06 am to Duke
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I still say folding is your only move at this point. If they were folding on a hand they could win, I'd understand the right wing outrage more
They've folded on every single issue since Obama has been President. I cannot think of a single issue, they didn't capitulate to the wishes of Obama and Reid, can you? This is a battle they could have forced concessions on. I blame the moderate R's for the failure. They have allowed themselves to be a rubber stamp for the Dem's and are fighting and ignoring the growing conservative movement in their own party. They need to be working more closely with Cruz, Rand and others, rather than fight and publicly criticize them, because they fear losing establishment control. Without the Tea Party individuals, there is practically no difference at all between Dem and Rep's at this point.
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 11:49 am to Alahunter
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They've folded on every single issue since Obama has been President. I cannot think of a single issue, they didn't capitulate to the wishes of Obama and Reid, can you? This is a battle they could have forced concessions on. I blame the moderate R's for the failure. They have allowed themselves to be a rubber stamp for the Dem's and are fighting and ignoring the growing conservative movement in their own party. They need to be working more closely with Cruz, Rand and others, rather than fight and publicly criticize them, because they fear losing establishment control. Without the Tea Party individuals, there is practically no difference at all between Dem and Rep's at this point.
You can't be serious.
Posted on 10/16/13 at 12:24 pm to Alahunter
What exactly were they fighting for? I know it started on Obamacare, but the majority of Obamacare is funded through permanent appropriations so any funding they would/could have withheld wasn't much. They quickly abandoned that fight, and moved to trumpeting to anyone that would listen that the US wouldn't default if the debt ceiling wasn't raised. This despite every financial expert warning of the economic catastrophe that would occur if the debt ceiling wasn't raised. They had absolutely no leg to stand on in the debate, and it was evident from the start. Reid and Obama knew it, which is why they dug in and held strong. The irony is they may have lost any leg they may have had in the utter failure of the ACA rollout so far.
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