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re: Can Only 1 Mississippi School Dominate at a Time?
Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:29 pm to undecided
Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:29 pm to undecided
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So the question becomes, how badly do the Mississippi schools want to compete on a national level
I should have phrased that last part better. They don't have either the resources or the willingness to invest them at present both to lock down the state of Mississippi and to bring in the out-of-state talent they would need to compete nationally alongside the MS talent. It's kinda like how Louisiana has enough talent to keep LSU strong, but how we supplement with Texas and some FL/GA talent to stay with college football's elite. A Mississippi school would need to do the same -- lock down MS and pull from hot spots nearby (Memphis, Birmingham, and a couple of guys from TX/FL/GA). They don't have the resources or willingness to do both. So the choice becomes de-emphasizing Mississippi, and letting the rival get stronger by letting them pick up the leftovers, or de-emphasizing out-of-state, and not getting the talent needed to put them over the top. (ETA: And of course you're not going to pick the route that endangers your core recruiting ground.)
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 4:31 pm
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:35 pm to lsutothetop
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I should have phrased that last part better. They don't have either the resources or the willingness to invest them at present both to lock down the state of Mississippi and to bring in the out-of-state talent they would need to compete nationally alongside the MS talent. It's kinda like how Louisiana has enough talent to keep LSU strong, but how we supplement with Texas and some FL/GA talent to stay with college football's elite. A Mississippi school would need to do the same -- lock down MS and pull from hot spots nearby (Memphis, Birmingham, and a couple of guys from TX/FL/GA). They don't have the resources or willingness to do both. So the choice becomes de-emphasizing Mississippi, and letting the rival get stronger by letting them pick up the leftovers, or de-emphasizing out-of-state, and not getting the talent needed to put them over the top.
ole miss has a built-in handicap that will not allow them to consistently attract the best available talent. the handicap has nothing to do with resources or geography.
state's built-in handicap is starkpatch. premier athletes don't want to go to boring schools?
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:36 pm to lsutothetop
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I should have phrased that last part better. They don't have either the resources or the willingness to invest them at present both to lock down the state of Mississippi and to bring in the out-of-state talent they would need to compete nationally alongside the MS talent. It's kinda like how Louisiana has enough talent to keep LSU strong, but how we supplement with Texas and some FL/GA talent to stay with college football's elite. A Mississippi school would need to do the same -- lock down MS and pull from hot spots nearby (Memphis, Birmingham, and a couple of guys from TX/FL/GA). They don't have the resources or willingness to do both. So the choice becomes de-emphasizing Mississippi, and letting the rival get stronger by letting them pick up the leftovers, or de-emphasizing out-of-state, and not getting the talent needed to put them over the top. (ETA: And of course you're not going to pick the route that endangers your core recruiting ground.)
Ok I gotcha. It's kinda like how LSU was able to sustain success once they stopped outsiders from poaching their in-state talent. At this point, LSU has the success to allow them to miss top guys in-state and supplement them elsewhere. The Mississippi schools do not appear to have considered this route
Mississippi residents, do you agree or disagree?
Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:39 pm to lsutothetop
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I should have phrased that last part better. They don't have either the resources or the willingness to invest them at present both to lock down the state of Mississippi and to bring in the out-of-state talent they would need to compete nationally alongside the MS talent. It's kinda like how Louisiana has enough talent to keep LSU strong, but how we supplement with Texas and some FL/GA talent to stay with college football's elite. A Mississippi school would need to do the same -- lock down MS and pull from hot spots nearby (Memphis, Birmingham, and a couple of guys from TX/FL/GA). They don't have the resources or willingness to do both. So the choice becomes de-emphasizing Mississippi, and letting the rival get stronger by letting them pick up the leftovers, or de-emphasizing out-of-state, and not getting the talent needed to put them over the top. (ETA: And of course you're not going to pick the route that endangers your core recruiting ground.)
Is this not exactly what Freeze has been doing?
Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:41 pm to lsutothetop
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We have managed to build successful cities where people actually want to live and visit. And we have provided the country with unique cultural contributions. Alabama and Mississippi are a push. Ppl not from there tend to avoid both states whenever possible.
That's true. But, Olive Branch, MS is the fastest growing town in the nation. That and economic growth is expected double in MS in the next 3 years.
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:51 pm to lsutothetop
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A Mississippi school would need to do the same -- lock down MS and pull from hot spots nearby (Memphis, Birmingham, and a couple of guys from TX/FL/GA). They don't have the resources or willingness to do both.
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So the choice becomes de-emphasizing Mississippi, and letting the rival get stronger by letting them pick up the leftovers, or de-emphasizing out-of-state, and not getting the talent needed to put them over the top.
I disagree with this. Getting a MS kid out of MS isn't nearly as easy as it used to be. So we are slowly but surely sealing off the borders. There will always be outliers (Pack and Voorhies sp?) who live so far from both schools, it's just as close to go to FSU/LSU respectively. So the geography of the schools hurt some.
As for hotspot recruiting, both MSU and OM are currently recruiting the Atlanta Metro, Memphis, TX, LA, and FL areas. During the 2014 cycle they combine for 9 kids from GA currently committed, so both have made adjustments.
No one team will ever "dominate" in-state recruiting in MS...just the way it has always been.
So neither of your options are even on the table for either staff. But it does come down to money/budgets. Two of the smallest in the SEC, so the reach isn't going to be as big, therefore the margin for error is much smaller. We can't afford misses in our recruiting classes, and to date...both schools have had plenty.
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 4:55 pm
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