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re: As the jar cracks - Johnny Manziel's downfall is upon us

Posted on 8/7/13 at 10:36 pm to
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 10:36 pm to
the NCAA suspended an OSU Pitcher for contact with an agent while in high school but lacked sufficient evidence. The Pitcher appealed and had it overturned but only after missing part of the season. He later sued the NCAA for defamation of character and the NCAA settled for $750k. A college pitcher. You probably never even heard that story.

This one is all over the press. So what's the reigning Heisman winner worth? 100X that? The publicity may be a million times more. Neither the NCAA nor Texas A&M is going to punish anyone without sufficient evidence no matter how much you want them to.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 10:43 pm to
Being a lawyer for 20 years I think they were law books but I do try to avoid them when possible.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 11:36 pm to
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Oliver sued, arguing that the N.C.A.A.’s ban on the use of lawyers by baseball players during contract negotiations violated state law in Ohio, his home state. In February, a judge agreed with him and issued an order barring the N.C.A.A. from enforcing the rule.


But he sued on the basis of an Ohio state law. I don't think Manziel will be able to cite Ohio State Law in his suit.
This post was edited on 8/7/13 at 11:37 pm
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/8/13 at 8:29 am to
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but lacked sufficient evidence

They have sufficient evidence.

There is a standard in the law that basically says: If someone defames you with information that is false, then you have a case.

But if someone defames you with information that is true, then you have no case.

The burden of proof is on the plaintiff. JFF would have to PROVE that he didn't take any money. Basically, he would have to prove a negative, which is almost impossible.

The NCAA is fine on this one. Don't try to turn this around and make it more complicated than it really is. JFF is the one who broke the rules, not the NCAA.

At least three agents have come forward now to say that they paid him for signatures. At least one of them has him on tape referencing the money.

That right there is probably way more evidence than they usually have in an eligibility case.
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