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re: A&M - Bama 2012 and JFF vs. the Zone Defense
Posted on 8/1/13 at 12:03 pm to madddoggydawg
Posted on 8/1/13 at 12:03 pm to madddoggydawg
The real key is confusing JFF and getting him to make mistakes. That's getting harder and harder to do though. One thing that seems to be overlooked is that Manziel was a Freshman QB who had only won the starting job a couple weeks before the season started. He had a very limited understanding of the offense and made a lot of plays with his athleticism because of it.
This year he will be running the offense much more as it is meant to be run. The offense is fairly simple, it is designed for there to always be at least 1 mismatch on every play and for the QB to recognize it at the line and attack it. The key with a guy like Manziel is he leaves you with an extra option on every play because of his running ability and thus you will have 2 mismatches (either because of him running or dedicating a defender to stop him running). Knowledge is key in this offense.
The only way to stop the offense really is for A) the QB to make mistakes or B) to have a significant talent advantage. The scheme is less relevant because if the QB recognizes what the defense is doing he will simply adjust. Against UF Manziel didn't even throw deep much less really understand the offense.
Against Ole Miss they did an excellent job of confusing him by making him think he could run when he really couldn't and forced mistakes until late in the game. Against LSU they had the best DL athletes he faced all year and they also did an excellent job of confusing him. By the time he played Bama he was starting to adjust as things were taken away from him. After Bama he really was unstoppable and no one really even challenged him. The question is if he continues on that line of development or not, the odds favor development because of experience.
More than that though, the Bama game is going to come down to the Bama O vs the A&M D even though JFF is getting all the pub.
This year he will be running the offense much more as it is meant to be run. The offense is fairly simple, it is designed for there to always be at least 1 mismatch on every play and for the QB to recognize it at the line and attack it. The key with a guy like Manziel is he leaves you with an extra option on every play because of his running ability and thus you will have 2 mismatches (either because of him running or dedicating a defender to stop him running). Knowledge is key in this offense.
The only way to stop the offense really is for A) the QB to make mistakes or B) to have a significant talent advantage. The scheme is less relevant because if the QB recognizes what the defense is doing he will simply adjust. Against UF Manziel didn't even throw deep much less really understand the offense.
Against Ole Miss they did an excellent job of confusing him by making him think he could run when he really couldn't and forced mistakes until late in the game. Against LSU they had the best DL athletes he faced all year and they also did an excellent job of confusing him. By the time he played Bama he was starting to adjust as things were taken away from him. After Bama he really was unstoppable and no one really even challenged him. The question is if he continues on that line of development or not, the odds favor development because of experience.
More than that though, the Bama game is going to come down to the Bama O vs the A&M D even though JFF is getting all the pub.
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Posted on 8/1/13 at 12:07 pm to aggressor
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the Bama game is going to come down to the Bama O vs the A&M D even though JFF is getting all the pub.
Yup, been saying this.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 12:28 pm to aggressor
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The real key is confusing JFF and getting him to make mistakes. That's getting harder and harder to do though.
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After Bama he really was unstoppable and no one really even challenged him.
These arguments don't address the fact that Bama ran the defense A&M wanted... 4 down-lineman and man coverage. It was not the same D as UF and LSU, although there were similar looks. JFF's didn't throw deep early in the season because it's not the strength of his game. This theory that he had some kind of an epiphany the night before the Bama game and finally understood this brilliant Sumlin offense (y'know, the same one every no-huddle team uses) and never looked back is myth. It's also wishful thinking that JFF develops into some kind of pocket passer this year. He's accurate but his height holds him back in the short passing game and his deep balls get less accurate (that's why A&M wants a one-on-one deep down the middle of the field where the DB doesn't have a chance at an INT). OU let off 50 a lot last year, so I don't think that's a good measuring stick as a program.
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