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re: Rank the SEC programs overall for the main 3 sports
Posted on 6/3/13 at 3:43 pm to bona fide
Posted on 6/3/13 at 3:43 pm to bona fide
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Not even close.... Basketball avg attendance Basketball 11,000 Baseball - 4,500
You completely missed the point of the post you quoted. Baseball attendance top 6 in nation are SEC, not even remotely close to that in basketball. When compared to the rest of the country the SEC is much more into college baseball than college basketball. For overall attendance once a couple more schools invest in facilities baseball will top basketball in popularity. In 2011-2012 baseball almost topped basketball.
Posted on 6/3/13 at 3:44 pm to td01241
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1. Florida
The rest.
This ... /thread
Posted on 6/3/13 at 3:44 pm to lsusteve1
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Take out UK and Arkie and those #'s aren't near as impressive.
Basketball is on a slow decline and COLLEGE Baseball is on an incline.
As of the moment, it's not as big a gap as it used to be IMO
take out LSU and Arkie for in baseball and the numbers are impressive again.
No matter how you slice it, 2-1 margin in significant.
Posted on 6/3/13 at 3:46 pm to bona fide
There was a thread a while back that asked which of the two (baseball/basketball) would you rather have a Natty in. The overwhelming favorite was Basketball
Posted on 6/3/13 at 3:46 pm to bona fide
Never did I compare attendance for basketball and baseball dumbass.
I said in the SEC baseball is more popular than basketball.
I said in the SEC baseball is more popular than basketball.
Posted on 6/3/13 at 3:47 pm to kc4usc
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ou completely missed the point of the post you quoted. Baseball attendance top 6 in nation are SEC, not even remotely close to that in basketball. When compared to the rest of the country the SEC is much more into college baseball than college basketball. For overall attendance once a couple more schools invest in facilities baseball will top basketball in popularity. In 2011-2012 baseball almost topped basketball.
I know the point of the post, it was spin. Comparing SEC attendance against the rest of the nation is irrelevant.
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In 2011-2012 baseball almost topped basketball.
with twice as many games, and still couldn't surpass
Posted on 6/3/13 at 3:48 pm to bubbz
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Never did I compare attendance for basketball and baseball dumbass.
I said in the SEC baseball is more popular than basketball.
based on what? attendance numbers say otherwise
Posted on 6/3/13 at 3:49 pm to UMRealist
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There was a thread a while back that asked which of the two (baseball/basketball) would you rather have a Natty in. The overwhelming favorite was Basketball
I like both equally, I'd happily give up two CFB titles for one in basketball at this point.
eta.. misread the quote. I like CFB and basketball equally, I don't follow baseball.
This post was edited on 6/3/13 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 6/3/13 at 3:52 pm to bona fide
For the 2011-12 academic year...
TOTAL SEC FOOTBALL ATTENDANCE = 6,369,898 LINK
TOTAL SEC BASKETBALL ATTENDANCE = 2,475,188 LINK
TOTAL SEC BASEBALL ATTENDANCE = 2,135,404 LINK
Doc Fenton numbers from post here on the rant. Basketball will be passed in popularity by baseball in attendance within the next few years! Especially if Bama and Georgia invest in new facilities!
TOTAL SEC FOOTBALL ATTENDANCE = 6,369,898 LINK
TOTAL SEC BASKETBALL ATTENDANCE = 2,475,188 LINK
TOTAL SEC BASEBALL ATTENDANCE = 2,135,404 LINK
Doc Fenton numbers from post here on the rant. Basketball will be passed in popularity by baseball in attendance within the next few years! Especially if Bama and Georgia invest in new facilities!
Posted on 6/3/13 at 3:55 pm to kc4usc
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Doc Fenton numbers from post here on the rant. Basketball will be passed in popularity by baseball in attendance within the next few years! Especially if Bama and Georgia invest in new facilities!
Still disagree, total numbers are irrelevant. Baseball has twice as many games or more, obviously this will inflate the total.
Posted on 6/3/13 at 3:57 pm to tigerskin
Bama has a combined 15 national championships in all three sports.
Posted on 6/3/13 at 3:59 pm to bona fide
More games argument has no merit, doesn't hurt football. In the SEC baseball is a more popular game than basketball. If college baseball had the TV coverage history that basketball has had over the years basketball would be a distant 3rd in popularity in the South. I'm willing to bet there are twice as many Braves fans than all the NBA southern teams combined.
Posted on 6/3/13 at 4:09 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
If you're going to count all of the random national titles awarded to LSU (especially 2011 which belongs to Alabama), then Alabama should be able to count all 28 of their national titles.
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Football (8): 1908 (NCF), 1935 (Williamson), 1936 (Williamson), 1958 (AP/UPI), 1962 (Berryman), 2003 (BCS), 2007 (BCS), 2011 (Houlgate).
Posted on 6/3/13 at 4:11 pm to kc4usc
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More games argument has no merit
Yes it does
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doesn't hurt football.
1. Football is just that much more popular than eiter
2. Relatively speaking, it does hurt.
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If college baseball had the TV coverage history that basketball has had over the years basketball would be a distant 3rd in popularity in the South.
I don't know, maybe but I doubt it. I personally don't care which is popular, but to ignore hard data and spin the other data, silly.
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I'm willing to bet there are twice as many Braves fans than all the NBA southern teams combined.
Don't follow professional leagues, so don't know but again it's something that has zero relevance. There are hard numbers staring you in the face, attendance and TV ratings. You can choose to ignore if you want.
Posted on 6/3/13 at 4:13 pm to tigerskin
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lately
Ok then.
POINTS KEY
National Title = +15
SEC Reg Season Title (n/a for football)= +7
SEC Tournament Title = +4
Each additional round team played in the postseason NCAA tournament (for football it includes going to a bowl game and/or the SECCG) = +2
Subsequent points are earned based on your end of season conference ranking starting with
1st place = +14
2nd place = +13
3rd place - +12 etc....
Most points wins.
Depending on your version of "lately" such as 1 year or 3 years, it could change.
So naturally, USC is #1 and f**k all the haters.
So clearly the winner is Alabam
Posted on 6/3/13 at 4:15 pm to kc4usc
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More games argument has no merit,
When you are talking about TOTAL season attendance it most certainly has merit.
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doesn't hurt football
We have one if not the smallest stadiums in the SEC and it still holds more than 7x our baseball and basketball will. That's why it doesn't hurt football durrr
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If college baseball had the TV coverage history that basketball has had over the years basketball would be a distant 3rd in popularity in the South.
But it will never have the TV coverage that basketball does. Deal with it
This post was edited on 6/3/13 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 6/3/13 at 4:24 pm to bubbz
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Just look at the top 6 in baseball attendance...all SEC teams. Baseball is more popular in the SEC than basketball.
As much as you want it to be, it's really not. It's in favor of basketball. Six for baseball and eight for basketball as far as capacity goes, and that's the most important stat.
Below are the latest stats that I could find for both sports, with season attendance, game attendance average, and percentage of capacity with the bolded teams have a higher capacity in that particular sport.
Basketball:
Kentucky 426,978 23,721 (23,500 100%)
Tennessee 314,321 16,543 (21,678 76%)
Vanderbilt 246,561 13,698 (14,316 96%)
Arkansas 275,020 13,096 (19,368 68%)
Alabama 199,749 12,484 (15,383 81%)
Missouri 201,117 11,830 (15,061 79%)
Florida 166,951 10,434 (11,548 90%)
South Carolina 159,627 8,868 (18,000 49%)
LSU 129,910 8,661 (13,215 66%)
Mississippi State 152,363 8,019 (10,575 76%)
Texas A&M 132,900 7,383 (12,989 57%)
Georgia 120,350 7,079 (10,523 67%)
Auburn 110,534 6,502 (9,121 71%)
Ole Miss 86,554 5,770 (9,061 64%)
For Baseball:
LSU 394,900 10,673 (10,150 105%)
Arkansas 292,734 7,704 (10,737 66%)
Ole Miss 223,035 6,759 (8,500 80%)
South Carolina 236,529 6,758 (8,242 82%)
Mississippi State 194,094 6,065 (7,200 84%)
9. Alabama 112,210 4,156 (6,571 63%)
Texas A&M 131,089 3,641 (5,400 67%)
Florida 126,195 3,505 (5,500 63%)
Auburn 101,495 2,671 (4,096 65%)
Georgia 73,734 2,633 (3,291 81%)
Vanderbilt 72,602 2,269 (3,700 61%)
Kentucky 55,785 1,860 (3,000 62%)
Tennessee 52,383 1,690 (3,712 45%)
Mizzou didn't show up in NCAA baseball attendance.
This post was edited on 6/3/13 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 6/3/13 at 4:26 pm to jatebe
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especially 2011 which belongs to Alabama
Why does 2011 belong to Alabama but 1941 not belong to Minnesota? After all, it was the same organization - Houlgate - that awarded 1941 to Alabama and 2011 to LSU.
This post was edited on 6/3/13 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 6/3/13 at 4:26 pm to TigerBait2008
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TigerBait2008
Laugh it up, but y'all are claiming 2011. Didn't Bama embarrass your team in the championship game? First and only shutout in the BCS era, and y'all are claiming it.
At least the 1941 team won their bowl game.
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