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re: All the Mizzou stuff on this board about "They suck" and "They regret coming to
Posted on 4/25/13 at 9:44 am to reedus23
Posted on 4/25/13 at 9:44 am to reedus23
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Curious what you base this on.
Notorious carriage rate battles in the past. With other college and pro teams in MO (speaking of fans and alumni as there is a high concentration of B1G alumni in Saint Louis and B12 folks in Kansas City) Mizzou does not have the same inelastic demand of say Bama or UK. This is not a knock on Mizzou specifically but more an acknowledgement that east and west coast media owners are more concerned about making dollars than being rah rah about school ties.
Adding Nebraska (with inelastic demand) put carriage rates in NE between 1.00 and 2.00 and was top in the BTN. In Maryland and New Jersey the BTN will not have such an easy sell. If current BTN carriage rates in MD and NJ are 5 cents the BTN may get a boost to 50 cents but they will not get the 1.00 to 2.00 dollars they could with Nebraska. In MO the Cardinals probably have the most inelastic demand and Mizzou may have the most elastic. In AL and MS I am gonna guess the SEC is the dominant brand in their markets.
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Agree about last year. I think they were humbled last year and you'll see the latter approach moving forward.
I really hope you are correct
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Any actual indication they will lose that status other than doom and gloom?
Mostly based on the observation that Delany is a ruthless bastard and it is in the interest of the B1G to discredit the SEC at any given opportunity. If Delany retires and is replaced by a moderate then I think the Tigers are safe.
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I would agree, softball, of any of the sports, is the most likely in the short term. Solid team this year and I believe 2 of the nation's top pitchers coming in next year.
Mizzou fans need to show up in force for the SEC tourney and really show up in the post season if they are not a regional site. NCAA looks at attendance numbers and that is a real strong point for the SEC. NCAA wants teams that sell tickets which makes it harder to leave SEC schools out because of their traveling fans.
UK basketball, SEC football, and SEC baseball all travel well. Mizzou needs to show they can move seats outside of their home venues for all sports and can sell solidly for at least 1 sport. Why else do you think the ACC added Louisville? Their football program is still not a proven commodity and their academics sure do not fit the ACC. Their big draw was Top 5 attendance numbers for both men's and women's basketball.
The easy tell is when Mizzou travels is it easy to get tickets or hard? Nobody expects them to sell like Bama football or UK basketball but they need to be respectable when they are invited so it looks good on both Mizzou and the SEC. The best indication of traveling fan strength is ticket prices for neutral sites. If I can pick up official NCAA tickets for Mizzou for 50 cents on the dollar it means they do not travel well. When Mizzou tickets for the NCAA in Rupp were selling for 10 bucks on the street with a Face Value of 100 bucks it tells me the market knows there is no demand. NCAA wants to make money and notices stuff like that.
Schools have to bid on hosting and they are not going to want teams that have little or no demand.
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 10:04 am to Cheese Grits
If that is how you base whether or not Mizzou is carrying KC and STL, then I can assure you, Mizzou will NEVER carry those cities. I won't speak for KC folks, but being in STL, I can guarantee you Mizzou will NEVER knock the Cardinals off their pedestal. Having said that, I don't think they need to in order to "carry" the St. Louis market. It may be a small example of how Mizzou is impacting the STL market, but just this week, the only STL paper hired Dave Matter, who for the last many years has been covering Mizzou football and the SEC for the Columbia paper. I'm hopeful he'll eventually have a daily radio spot as well as most of the writers/tv guys do. I think there's a reason the Post hired a Mizzou beat writer instead of someone else.
As far as travelling, Mizzou will always travel better than most, worse than some. Despite other schools labelling Mizzou as a basketball school, we are not a basketball school. We have had a solid basketball program, but I'd hardly call us a basketball school. I think there are many factors that went into attendance at Rupp, one being that no one ever really identified with this team as they were made up mostly of transfers who were here only 1 year. Expectations for this past year's team were also very guarded. Having said that, if you go back through the actual game threads of our away conference games this year, I would bet on more of them than not you'll find comments from the other schools posters commenting on how well fans showed up. In fact, while I know it's SC, I distinctly remember hearing a louder MU contingent than SC contingent and could clearly hear the MIZ ZOU chant. Travelling will be fine when there is reason to travel.
As far as travelling, Mizzou will always travel better than most, worse than some. Despite other schools labelling Mizzou as a basketball school, we are not a basketball school. We have had a solid basketball program, but I'd hardly call us a basketball school. I think there are many factors that went into attendance at Rupp, one being that no one ever really identified with this team as they were made up mostly of transfers who were here only 1 year. Expectations for this past year's team were also very guarded. Having said that, if you go back through the actual game threads of our away conference games this year, I would bet on more of them than not you'll find comments from the other schools posters commenting on how well fans showed up. In fact, while I know it's SC, I distinctly remember hearing a louder MU contingent than SC contingent and could clearly hear the MIZ ZOU chant. Travelling will be fine when there is reason to travel.
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