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re: Hugh Freeze Quote Ayn Rand????

Posted on 2/5/13 at 10:06 am to
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 10:06 am to
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FIFY. Conservatives aren't atheists.

If you honestly can read a book like Atlas Shrugged and not see the parallels to the modern world and how private industry reacts to business I feel sorry for you. Fortunately the folks in Texas get it, that's why NY and California businesses and millionaires keep moving here. At some point people get tired of working their arse off and taking risks just so the government can tax it all away, thus Atlas Shrugged.


I beg to differ, sir.

It's the neo-cons that aren't atheists. Republicans are neo-cons. They aren't conservative. Not at all.

Limited government conservatives and constitutionalists don't give a shite what people believe or who they have sex with, or how they have sex, or what they ingest or what they print on money, or what a woman does with her body, or countless other mandates.

Conservatives care about lower taxes and spending less. In everything -- including defense. The government which governs best is that which governs least. Choice rules all. And the more choices the better. Leave the choices to the individual and keep the government's hand out of his pocket.


You are describing a libertarian and not a conservative. The terms are muddled but in modern American terms a libertarian is a fiscal conservative and social liberal (essentially wanting as little government interference as possible and maximum freedom. A conservative is a fiscal conservative and social conservative (opposing abortion, gay marriage, and being a proponent of morals as a driver of policy).
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 10:21 am to
I would say it this way:

American Liberal:
Statist on ecomomic issues. Goverment should control means of production and distribute evenly to all.

Libertarian on social issues. for gay marriage, abortion, narcotics, etc.

American Conservative:
Statists on social issues. oppose gay marriage, abortion, narcotics, etc.

Libertarians on economic issues. Taxes, means of production, etc.

Neo-Con/Progressive (they are the same, despite their idiotic hostility toward each other):
Statist on most social and economic issues, but try to appear as though they are not. They pick and choose pet issues to be libertarian on, but only to get more votes. In the end, they are simply hardcore Authoritarians and only serve to extend and maintain their power. frick them.

Libertarians (not to be confused with the Libertarian Party):
Libertarian on most social and economic issues. For limited government, but still for government. What else can I say?





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