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re: Ranking the SEC schools academically?

Posted on 1/3/13 at 7:46 pm to
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/3/13 at 7:46 pm to
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That's such a weak arguement. I could say the exact same thing about Auburn, and like you, I would have nothing but guesswork to back it up with. I'm sure the number of applicants does go up when the football program is doing well due to increased exposure but those applicants aren't limited to the unqualified. Out of state applicants and enrollment is largely driving the growth and those students are much less likely to be Bama fans. As you and others have stated, Bama has made a concerted effort to nationally recruit scholastic standouts, but you won't accept that as causing an increase in average ACT scores. No, it has to be Bama fudging the numbers.


Auburn has a higher acceptance rate and higher ACT scores, so you can not use the same arguement. And their nationally recruiting of scholastic standouts does not hold water either, Auburn had more NMS last year than bama. Bama has had to recruit students from out of state because the numbers in Alabama can not support the growth. Alabama is having to offer more money in schollies to lure the out of state students away from home schools. The numbers fudging is a factor of parents and students looking at these guides to select their future schools.
Posted by gatormed
Gainesville
Member since Dec 2012
16 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 8:14 pm to
US news: Vandy, then UF, then aTm, then UGA then everyone else. Mizzou isnt in the top 100, I don't think..
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 8:19 pm to
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Auburn has a higher acceptance rate and higher ACT scores, so you can not use the same arguement


Auburn has to have a higher admittance rate than Alabama (70% vs 44%) because Auburn enrolls a much lower percentage of those admitted than Bama (42% vs 87%). If you know that less than half of the students admitted will actually enroll, then you'd damn well better admit a lot of them.

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And their nationally recruiting of scholastic standouts does not hold water either, Auburn had more NMS last year than bama.


Actually, Alabama and Auburn both claim to have been ranked 2nd nationally in number of NMS in 2011 with 181 each

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The numbers fudging is a factor of parents and students looking at these guides to select their future schools.


Alleged numbers fudging. Yet to see any evidence other than what you claim you were told. Just like sammy claimed that the average freshman ACT score at Alabama was 22 and TiM claimed that Alabama hid the average freshmen ACT scores.

Again, the dramatic increase in applicants has allowed Alabama to be more selective which has corresponded to an increase in average ACT score.

I do find it interesting that 2 different Auburn fans report having "heard" that Alabama's increase in enrollment has led to watered down academic qualifications of the student body. This despite actual reports that Alabama has increased minimum acceptance qualifications, average freshman GPA, average freshman ACT scores, and number of NMS. So forgive me if, absent any actual evidence, I continue to be skeptical of what you heard.
This post was edited on 1/3/13 at 9:10 pm
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