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re: Does Missouri regret coming to SEC now?

Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:53 pm to
Posted by SunHog
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:53 pm to


Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/20/12 at 12:24 am to
frick, I guess only Missouri's contributions to the CSA and its sons and daughters that lost their lives dont count.

I thought for sure that we were told countless times by folks here including some loud mouthed Hog fans that Civil War History doesnt define one as "Southern"

Fayetteville is not a southern town. Its just the way it is man. Nothing wrong with that either. Beautiful place, just not southern.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/20/12 at 12:43 am to
Whoa there, Sunhog. I like your shoes and movies which make have made me sort of like you.

But now you've delved into the Civil War which Mizzou fans have been told over and over doesn't determine if you're southern or not in relentless attacks on our culture.

We've been told that we can't use the Civil War to justify our southernness. We cant use the star on the confederate flag to prove that southern states valued Missouri as a ideological and military partner. Slavery? Off limits of course. Missouri being a split state with two separate governments? Doesn't matter. Missouri having the most battles west of the Mississippi River? Doesn't matter. Jayhawkers referring to Missouri as slavers for the past 150 years. Doesn't mean we're southern.

Then, geography is used to paint us as northern without one person acknowledging that the Mason Dixon line wasn't straight as an arrow. At points, that line was more north than CoMo or West Virginia, yet WV was loyal to the north. They weren't even a split state. Hell, many historical experts claim the south stretched as far north as Hannibal, MO, the birth place of Mark Twain - famous as a riverboat captain and writer of Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn. Hannibal, in the northeast corner of Missouri an hour and a half north of St. Louis has always been referred to as "Little Dixie", a phrase used to describe that area of Missouri during the Civil War and beyond.

However, interestingly, rant tards would rather have WV in the SEC over Mizzou partly because rant tards consider WV to be "southern", which is flat out inaccurate.

When the civl war debate is lost, rant tards then move on to actual Missouri culture. They show retarded Coke/Soda/Pepsi county-by-county maps that attempt to prove Missouri is indeed culturally northern.

Then, when that fails, they talk about crops - according to the rant experts Missouri has more in common with Midwestern states like Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska because we grow corn and soybeans. They fail to understand that we also grow significant quantities of cotton and tobacco, also failing to understand that Missouri tobacco is some of the highest quality tobacco in the U.S. and was in very high demand during the Civil War period of time.

The tard logic is this...if you have cornfields in your state, you're northern. We also produce more wine than any state other than California. I'm not sure what that makes us....but rant experts would most likely say it makes us northern.

We don't make tea like people do in the south. Or, rather, our restaurants don't offer sweet tea (which is a false statement for the southern half of Missouri).

This debate is argument after argument based on nothing substantial other than opinion. And the opinion that Missouri isn't southern is misguided.

To peg Missouri as either northern or southern is retarded when you consider that Missouri is about half Midwestern and half southern, and one city (St. Louis) seems northern until you consider it has strong southern historical ties.

We fit about as well in the SEC as we do in the Big 10 and Big 12. Our people will always be split...that's our history. We'll fight amongst ourselves over our identity and we'll fight with our neighbors over it to...because that's our history. Our tradition is to fight, which makes me wonder why people are so surprised about what our homegrown football players said at SEC media days.

We're about as southern as we are Midwestern...but we most definitely aren't northern unless you consider every U.S. culture dynamic other than southern to in fact be northern. If that's the case, you're an idiot and living in the past.....which is against your own rules on how to determine if someone or somewhere is southern or not.

Hypocrisy at its finest. Cheers to stupidity.



Hell, when the debate is lost, you can always fall on meth as the next best option to troll Mizzou fans.

And let's be clear...the people who initiate this debate are indeed trolls. This debate has one purpose....to incite Mizzou fans into a rash response. I believe that obvious trolling is against the rules, per Ice Cold's most recent proclamation. Perhaps RA worthy?
This post was edited on 11/20/12 at 9:07 am
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