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Posted on 11/13/12 at 11:12 am
Posted by semotruman
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Posted on 11/13/12 at 11:12 am
Say this article today - I can't imagine the pain this former Tiger has gone through, and I have a whole new level of respect for his courage. I'd heard about his background with sexual abuse as a child, but hearing him talk about it almost made me cry.

This Tiger fan hopes he can heal and get the peace he deserves in his life. How wonderful to be able to take such a horrible situation and somehow make a positive out of it by helping others.

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Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 1:58 pm to
After having a child, it makes me incredibly sick to hear about any abuse...especially sexual. It truly makes me sick.

I can't even watch the hungry children commercials anymore. I just don't have the stomach for it.

One of my favorite movies of all time, Pet Semetary, is now unwatchable because it shows little Gage die in an awful accident. As a father, I now imagine myself as the father in those situations.

Fatherhood has changed my entire perspective on life.
This post was edited on 11/13/12 at 2:00 pm
Posted by mograyback
Member since Jul 2011
7102 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

I can't even watch the hungry children commercials anymore. I just don't have the stomach for it.



Speaking of those hungry children commercials, they kill me. If you buy into that stuff you're a sucker, it's a scam and there is a very easy way to solve that problem (like ridiculously easy) but people have their heads in their arse.

Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23188 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 4:46 pm to
Kills, I couldn't agree more. I used to be on the board of a shelter for abused and neglected kids, and they treated a lot of sexual abuse cases. There is no hell hot enough for people who would do that to a child.

Did you see my note about the web page?
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 5:07 pm to
Mogray,

I don't buy into the commercial. It's the images that I can't take now that I'm a father. You can't understand what I'm talking about until you become a father.

Simply seeing neglected children is enough to make me turn the channel. I can't imagine children being neglected when my child has a good life. I can't imagine my chikd being without.

It's a father thing. You'll go thru it at some point in your life.

Semo,

I'll check it out.
This post was edited on 11/13/12 at 5:54 pm
Posted by mograyback
Member since Jul 2011
7102 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 5:21 pm to
I hear you (although you're right, I can't understand until I have a kid).

My pet peeve on some things is people turning away. I just wish people wouldn't turn away, and would think about why things are the way they are..

Although I turn away plenty myself.


Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 6:01 pm to
It's not that I run away from bad things in life. I don't. I contribute quite a bit of time and money to charities.

I just think that there is a lot of unnecessarily bad images on TV involving children that I don't care to inundate myself with. I know there are millions of people/children in the world that need help.

I don't need to be reminded about it in commercials and in brutal shows like CSI, etc., etc., etc.

I have a pretty good grip on life...and it sucks that we can't help everyone, especially children. Even if we became Mother Theresa we couldn't fix poverty, starvation, abuse....

I don't need to be reminded of neglect 24/7. And I don't care to watch shows/movies that sensationalize child brutality (ie. Nancy Grace).
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23188 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 6:01 pm to
quote:

My pet peeve on some things is people turning away. I just wish people wouldn't turn away, and would think about why things are the way they are..

For me, watching those commercials, and the ones with abused animals, make me cry. I don't cry easily, but those do it every time.

I'm one of those who believes a society will be judged by how it cares for those least able to care for themselves. I can't stand to think about a child being hungry or mistreated, or an elderly person, or an animal. I can't stand to see suffering - It breaks my heart. And I know I can't save them all. So, I support the causes I can, especially the ones that affect my community, and don't subject myself to those images any more than necessary.
Posted by mograyback
Member since Jul 2011
7102 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 6:30 pm to
I didn't mean it like that. I wasn't saying you run from things by turning a cheek to that stuff.

Between the comments that you and Semo have made about this (which are expected bc they're common opinions), it reaffirms to me just how misguided we are.

We have built in responses to everything. Ahh we can't help everyone, we can't fix all starvation, but I give where I can. I drop that dollar in the bucket and feel like I've helped.

I wonder how many Americans know what Moringa is??

I wish I could find the video that showed this newer organization that just ripped apart the organizations that ask for money to feed the starving in Africa. Instead, they've been supplying them with Moringa Trees, and the kids in those villages look amazing. Moringa trumps everything we know on this planet. It has 5 times as much of what another fruit or veggie is famous for... Example, it has 5 times the vitamin C of an orange. It has all the protein you need, it truly is a miracle tree. And it can grow in a drought. Its literally a gift from God, yet we don't even know about it. That is because of our industrial food system and no other reason.

So my point is, we have these programmed responses and these phony outlets like charities to 'help' (cough). But we do not try to educate ourselves and make real changes. We don't think ohh damn, Americans throw away millions of tons of food a year. We strip continents like Africa of their beef so we can sell .99 cent hamburgers at every street corner. We have this tree that supplies every nutrient we need but we aren't using it. And this can go on and on.

PS. I'm not trying to come at you guys. I'm just saying how I feel about this..
This post was edited on 11/13/12 at 6:34 pm
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 8:04 pm to
Moringa also grows quickly which means that it could be a solution to massive deforestation.

However, although I agree with you on some points you made, perhaps your "natural or programmed" response to suffering children may change when you become a father.

Perhaps not.

You'll never know until you knock up a pretty lady...so get busy, for test purposes.
This post was edited on 11/13/12 at 8:44 pm
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23188 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 8:14 pm to
Kills, I thought I posted this earlier, but I was on my phone and apparently it didn't go through.

Basically, I just said that marketing/PR/Advertising is my profession, and I'd be happy to help you out with a web page. I'm not really a designer, but I know some good ones. I'm good with strategy, promotion, writing and branding. Not blowing smoke - this is what I do.

If you want to talk about a website, even just ask questions, shoot me an email.
This post was edited on 11/13/12 at 9:30 pm
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
10261 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 9:01 pm to
That's terrible to hear, he's an impressive guy, especially considering those circumstances. True Son (even if he was only a Tiger for a year).
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23188 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 9:05 pm to
Yeah, from his background to being the 1st VP of the NBA Players Association. Very proud of him, wish he'd stayed longer.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 9:10 pm to


Got it, Semo. Thanks!
Posted by mograyback
Member since Jul 2011
7102 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 9:18 pm to
quote:

Moringa also grows quickly which means that it could be a solution to massive deforestation.

However, although I agree with you on some points you made, perhaps your "natural or programmed" response to suffering children may change when you become a father.

Perhaps not.

You'll never know until you knock up a pretty lady...so get busy, for test purposes.




I don't think it has much to do with deforestation. I don't think Moringa would replace the products trees make. There is another plant that grows quickly that takes care of that.

I'm not sure what having or not having a kid has to do with my belief that people's common responses to things like world hunger are uninformed to say the least.

And no kids for me.. not when it costs what it costs to raise one. Maybe if I meet a pretty sugar momma.
This post was edited on 11/13/12 at 9:20 pm
Posted by mograyback
Member since Jul 2011
7102 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 9:22 pm to
quote:

Basically, I just said that marketing/PR/Advertising is my profession,


Semo, for you.

LINK

I'm jk. But just a hint into why I'm so cynical..
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23188 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 9:31 pm to
quote:

mizzoukills

Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 9:32 pm to
Mogray,

Are you a Tool fan?

Actually, Moringa is a solution to massive deforestation, but I assume you're hinting at bamboo as a batter solution....well, now that I think about it, perhaps you're not.
This post was edited on 11/13/12 at 9:35 pm
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23188 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 9:34 pm to
quote:

mograyback



If I had my way, I would only work for events and not-for-profit causes, or people/businesses that are just getting started. Cause marketing is a particular love of mine.
This post was edited on 11/13/12 at 9:36 pm
Posted by mograyback
Member since Jul 2011
7102 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 9:43 pm to
quote:

Mogray,

Are you a Tool fan?


I should be, a lot of people that like the bands I do are Tool fans. I just never got into them when they were big.

My one buddy kept hounding me to go to Puscifer when they came to StL but I passed. I listened to it later and wished I had gone.

And I saw the documentary about Maynards vineyard (winemaking is one thing I could see myself doing), and it made me realize even more that I wish I was a fan of his music. His principles on things really resonated with me.

This post was edited on 11/13/12 at 9:46 pm
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