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re: Would Gruden be a successful SEC coach?
Posted on 10/24/12 at 4:50 pm to Mullen3:16
Posted on 10/24/12 at 4:50 pm to Mullen3:16
I don't think he would, beucsze frankly i don't think eh's that good of a coach and the few skill sets he does have, do not translate whatsoever to the college game.
look at gruden..
started with the raiders. he had an offense that consisted of jerry rice, tim brown and a 99 year old Rich Gannon. i'll give him grannon. he mad gannon look all world. but shite he had been in the nfl for like 20 years. seriuosly.
they made the super bowl. he then gets traded to teh bucks for first round draft pick, inherits one of the top 2-3 defenses of all time that tony dungy himself put togther. the offense, was worse under gruden than it was under dungy, the defense was just that bad arse, they still won the super bowl.
after this, brad johnson eventually leaves. they get worse and worse, he gets fired
this is teh problem i have with gruden.
1. he's not a defensive coach. eveyrone looks at him and says well his team plays great defense. shite hal mummie could have coached the bucs to a top 10 NFL defense. when your defense has john lynch, warren sapp, derrick brooks, ronde barber on it, all you prettymuch have to do is roll out the footballs.
2. he's an offensive coach, and outside of the raiders team with the three wise men on it, the offensives were horrible. not avg. not below par. horrible. he's the houston nutt of the NfL
3. he teaches the west coast offense. this is what he does. you are not going to teach a college quarterback the west coast offense, not at that level as he runs it. he does not like nFL rookies and now he's supposed to teach QB's that are 18 years old how to run the west coast offense when he couldn't freaking teach brad johnson how to run it. okay.
4. he hates recruiting. i do think to some extent he has name power, but the problem i have is , that people who like gruden, this is all they have right here. the name.
honestly if i had to hire one coach from the nfl ranks i'd go with Tony Dungy and and pay a top tier offensive cord.. Tony Dungy is about the only coach in america that can out saban saban. Gruden woudl get ihs clock cleaned in the SEC west with his shitty offenses
look at gruden..
started with the raiders. he had an offense that consisted of jerry rice, tim brown and a 99 year old Rich Gannon. i'll give him grannon. he mad gannon look all world. but shite he had been in the nfl for like 20 years. seriuosly.
they made the super bowl. he then gets traded to teh bucks for first round draft pick, inherits one of the top 2-3 defenses of all time that tony dungy himself put togther. the offense, was worse under gruden than it was under dungy, the defense was just that bad arse, they still won the super bowl.
after this, brad johnson eventually leaves. they get worse and worse, he gets fired
this is teh problem i have with gruden.
1. he's not a defensive coach. eveyrone looks at him and says well his team plays great defense. shite hal mummie could have coached the bucs to a top 10 NFL defense. when your defense has john lynch, warren sapp, derrick brooks, ronde barber on it, all you prettymuch have to do is roll out the footballs.
2. he's an offensive coach, and outside of the raiders team with the three wise men on it, the offensives were horrible. not avg. not below par. horrible. he's the houston nutt of the NfL
3. he teaches the west coast offense. this is what he does. you are not going to teach a college quarterback the west coast offense, not at that level as he runs it. he does not like nFL rookies and now he's supposed to teach QB's that are 18 years old how to run the west coast offense when he couldn't freaking teach brad johnson how to run it. okay.
4. he hates recruiting. i do think to some extent he has name power, but the problem i have is , that people who like gruden, this is all they have right here. the name.
honestly if i had to hire one coach from the nfl ranks i'd go with Tony Dungy and and pay a top tier offensive cord.. Tony Dungy is about the only coach in america that can out saban saban. Gruden woudl get ihs clock cleaned in the SEC west with his shitty offenses
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Posted on 10/24/12 at 7:36 pm to songofthesword
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3. he teaches the west coast offense. this is what he does. you are not going to teach a college quarterback the west coast offense, not at that level as he runs it. he does not like nFL rookies and now he's supposed to teach QB's that are 18 years old how to run the west coast offense when he couldn't freaking teach brad johnson how to run it. okay.
This. There's a huge difference in depending on experienced pros vs 18 year olds with limited practice time to carry out your plans.
And it's been over 21 years since Gruden coached in college.
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