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re: Tennessean: SEC expansion to 16 coming, Expect VaTech+NCState

Posted on 5/19/12 at 2:42 pm to
Posted by F1V3LSU
Alex Padilla 2016
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/19/12 at 2:42 pm to
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The funny thing is, the two schools we probably won't have access to (UNC & UVA) are a waaaaay better fit culturally than NCST and VT.


Disaghree. The schools and fanbases of Va Tech and NC State fit way better in the SEC. You are right that raleigh does not. Mostly because it is a big city and spread out as you said. Not sure why the towns really matter. But blacksburg is basically a typical college town, so yea it would fit. And UNC girls aren't any finer than NC State girls. UNC just has a 2/1 ratio and NC State is almost opposite.

UNC has a completely different feel than any SEC school I've been to. Totally different culture. UVA is a lacrosse school, that is just weird and doesn't fit in a football conference.
This post was edited on 5/19/12 at 2:44 pm
Posted by SoGaFan
Member since Jan 2008
5956 posts
Posted on 5/19/12 at 3:12 pm to
I love hearing about the great academic schools of the Big Ten. I received a graduate degree from Michigan and was a GSI while there. The laziness, the rampant (and yet utterly stupid) attempts at cheating, and the nearly complete lack of intellectual curiosity embodied by many of the undergraduates with whom I interacted just makes me smile when I hear tall tales of their superiority. I have no doubt that there were many incredibly intelligent undergraduates I didn't meet, and there is no doubt, at least at that time, many of the graduate programs were top-notch. However, Umich ( and the Big Ten by extension) is definitely not the end-all, be-all of academic brilliance, as Delaney would have us all believe.

All that aside, I don't mind adding two schools to the SEC. I do think a 4 pod system would work best. I have been an SEC fan for my entire life and I only have passing interest in games featuring UGA vs any schools not named Florida, Auburn, Tennessee, and maybe South Carolina.

I do think it is a natural evolution for there to be 4 regional super conferences with regards to football with one semifinal being the Rose Bowl between Pac12 and Big Ten champs, and the other being the Sugar Bowl between SEC and Big 12 champs, with the national championship game being bid on. The "earlier" rounds of the playoffs have already been played in the two-tiered conference championships. Will this leave out schools from getting a chance to play for a MNC in football? Absolutely, but they already are already. It would make more financial sense just to drop all other football programs not included in the super conferences back to 1AA and they can all compete for that championship. Just my two cents worth of thoughts.
Posted by Grateful Reb
Member since Apr 2011
8070 posts
Posted on 5/19/12 at 3:31 pm to
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Not sure why the towns really matter.

As far as geographic footprint, tv market, money, etc., they don't. I'm just talking about this as a fan of college football who enjoys going to away games. If you're a die hard NCSU fan, sorry, everything I'm about to say is probably going to piss you off.

I'd much rather see Ole Miss play a cross divisional game in Chapel Hill rather than Raleigh though. Tailgating at NC State sucks. The location of the stadium is inconvenient as hell, and once you get there, all of the tailgating is scattered in dirt parking lots (at least the fraternity ones/ones with college aged kids). Hillsborough Street is alright (I love East Village), but pretty meh as far as college bars go.

In contrast, everything in Chapel Hill is far more centralized. I'll take Franklin Street over Hillsborough any day, and the tailgating reminds me a lot of Ole Miss. Don't know, maybe it's just because Chapel Hill is so reminiscent of Athens and Oxford to me.

At the end of the day though, if UNC is out of the picture, I definitely want NC State in the conference considering I live in Raleigh. Sorry to bash your school, hope y'all wind up in the SEC, .....if UNC can't
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