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re: Spin-off thread on how many NC Bama actually has..

Posted on 5/10/12 at 4:24 pm to
Posted by jatebe
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Posted on 5/10/12 at 4:24 pm to
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Bama has 9 legit titles (although the 73 title is complete BS too. The AP changed the way they did things, because of Bama in 64 and the UPI was 10 years behind, which is totally inexcusable.)
Alabama won the national title in 1973 and 1964 according to the rules at the time. They changed the rules later, but that did not alter the fact that Alabama had won the national championships in those years.

Looks like the rest of the college football world has a hard time keeping up with Bama.

Bama plays and wins the NC in 1964 according to the rules, and because the rest of the teams are pissed, they changed the AP rules after that year. (It was funny that after they changed the rules for 1965, Bama won that AP NC for '65 too, because they waited until after the bowl games.)

Then the UPI changed the rules after the 1973 season; but Bama still won several UPI NC's in later years.

Now the BCS is changing because other conferences can't keep up with the SEC, including Bama. We're still playing by the rules and will continue to do so and win.

Posted by USMC Gators
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Posted on 5/10/12 at 4:25 pm to
1941 is the only one that anyone should really have a problem with.
Posted by LOCO5150
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Posted on 5/10/12 at 4:41 pm to
Because the championship team is not determined by an NCAA championship or tournament event, it is sometimes unofficially referred to as a "mythical national championship". Since the NCAA, the sport's governing body, does not determine or declare a national champion in this field, determination of such has often engendered controversy. A championship team is independently declared by various individuals and organizations, often referred to as "selectors"

There was no official way to determine the NC back then.
The AP voted before the bowl games in 1964. AL # 1 and AR # 2.
AL went on to lose their bowl game to Texas
AR went on to win their bowl game against Nebraska.

Now, look at that objectively, and then look at what happened last year. LSU was # 1 before the bowl games and AL was # 2. AL beat LSU and won the national championship.

So, same scenario of 1964 applied to 2012 and LSU is your national champion.
Posted by Tammany Tom
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Posted on 5/10/12 at 4:44 pm to
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Alabama won the national title in 1973 and 1964 according to the rules at the time. They changed the rules later, but that did not alter the fact that Alabama had won the national championships in those years.


Oh, believe me, I understand. What is ridiculous is that it took the UPI 10 years to change the way they voted when the AP changed after the 64 season.

I understand that prior to 65, Bowl games weren't always taken completely serious by the teams participating in them. That all changed after the 1964 season. After the AP changed their vote for the National Champion till after the outcome of Bowls, everyone started taking them serious.

For the UPI to continue to vote prior to the bowl games is pure insanity. They should have changed with the AP.

It is pure foolishness for Bama to be claimed a legit NC after getting beat by Notre Dame in the Sugar Bowl in 1973. For Bama to get the same right to claim a NC as Notre Dame does for that year, is beyond absurd.
This post was edited on 5/10/12 at 4:47 pm
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