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re: And here's Scarbo's take on Philon

Posted on 2/3/12 at 9:23 am to
Posted by Adam Banks
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Posted on 2/3/12 at 9:23 am to
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I still don't see why a gray shirt was such a bad deal. Other than injured pride, it does not change how this year would have gone for him. Redshirt or grey shirt, he's still rehabbing and lifting for most of the year.


Well for one they have to pay their own way with a grey shirt. I dont know the kids financial situation but this is an issue with some. Or they just sit around till the spring. Either way they arent on the team till the spring. Id say that isnt a good deal whenever you were committed for a year to play on said team without getting hint of grey shirting. Just call a spade a spade. LSU fans did it with Elliot Porter. If you tell a kid very late that they are going to have to grey shirt its a pretty crappy thing to do. Much less right before signing day and on signing day.
This post was edited on 2/3/12 at 9:30 am
Posted by piggidyphish
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Posted on 2/3/12 at 9:25 am to
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Much less on signing day


and here comes the baseless speculation that bama told him months ago, therefore it's ok.

Posted by jddawg58
Saban Nation
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 2/3/12 at 2:51 pm to
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I still don't see why a gray shirt was such a bad deal. Other than injured pride, it does not change how this year would have gone for him. Redshirt or grey shirt, he's still rehabbing and lifting for most of the year.




Well for one they have to pay their own way with a grey shirt. I dont know the kids financial situation but this is an issue with some. Or they just sit around till the spring. Either way they arent on the team till the spring. Id say that isnt a good deal whenever you were committed for a year to play on said team without getting hint of grey shirting. Just call a spade a spade. LSU fans did it with Elliot Porter. If you tell a kid very late that they are going to have to grey shirt its a pretty crappy thing to do. Much less right before signing day and on signing day.









The issue is not that CNS offered a grayshirt. The issue is the fact that the staff reassured these kids they had full offers until Taylor was told in January and Philon was told only about a week ahead of signing day.

Both kids committed before their injuries. If the injuries are the reason for the redshirt, just tell the kids they will receive a grayshirt offer. If they aren't satisfied with that, they can reopen their recruitment. The problem was the timing of the change in their status. The change was necessitated by the continued recruiting of athletes at their positions, and later committments that occurred after theirs were accepted which caused Alabama to be oversigned.

The rule change this year means ALA could only sign 26 LOIS. (1 backcounter) Philon and Taylor could not sign anything until next Jan.

Grayshirt status means you pay your own way, you are a part-time student, you cannot practice, attend team activities, or participate in strength and conditioning. You are not on the team as a grayshirt. You also aren't treated by team doctors. Grayshirt means you are on your own.

These kids both committed to schools they did not even visit. Why? Because of the situation they were put in by our staff.

Instead of talking about #1 recruiting class we are talking about 2 kids who were left at the alter by Saban. His quotes about committments do seem hypocritical under these circumstances.

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