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For the crying Hogs

Posted on 10/17/10 at 10:19 am
Posted by AUTigLN11
Marietta
Member since Mar 2010
4833 posts
Posted on 10/17/10 at 10:19 am
The Fannin fumble was a bad call, not sure about the fumble return as I haven't seen the replay. However, what about these

-the bogus PI call on 3rd down right before Ark's second TD.

-the bogus 4th down spot that kept a TD drive alive.

-the blatant push off by Childs on the long TD down the right sideline.

-the horrible roughing the passer call on 3rd down that kept an Ark TD drive alive when otherwise they would have been punting from their own 20.

The refs and replay officials were horrible, for both sides.
Posted by WaveHog
Austin, TX
Member since May 2008
6968 posts
Posted on 10/17/10 at 10:54 am to
this has been addressed multiple times, but i'll do it again.

quote:

-the bogus PI call on 3rd down right before Ark's second TD.

not bogus. the DB was beat to the corner so he hooked his arm completely around the WR. that was PI.

quote:

-the bogus 4th down spot that kept a TD drive alive.

the spot was maybe an inch or two off at most. the yellow line was a good half yard beyond where the actual marker was, which made things look off.

quote:

-the blatant push off by Childs on the long TD down the right sideline.

i wouldn't have complained if that was called offensive PI.

quote:

-the horrible roughing the passer call on 3rd down that kept an Ark TD drive alive when otherwise they would have been punting from their own 20.


i don't remember that one.

but the thing is - none of those was as egregious as the two HUGE calls that went Auburn's way and SHOULD HAVE been overturned with the video review.

Fannin's phantom TD = turnover to arkansas. at best, that's a 7pt swing assuming arkansas has to punt, at worst that's a 14 pt swing.

Green's "fumble" = we're going downfield, auburn hasn't been able to stop us. likely 7 pts our way, instead it's 7 pts to Auburn. a likely 14 pt swing.

don't fool yourself because of a few ticky-tack calls that might have gone arkansas's way. try to justify it all you like, but there's no real comparison. arkansas got fricked by the refs with huge momentum shifting calls that were blatantly wrong.
Posted by WILDTURKEYisgood
Madisonville
Member since Aug 2010
3320 posts
Posted on 10/17/10 at 10:54 am to
Even if the calls would have went the hogs way on the 2 questionable calls, auburn still would have won IMO
Posted by dziabari
baton rouge
Member since Aug 2007
177 posts
Posted on 10/17/10 at 10:54 am to
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
34115 posts
Posted on 10/17/10 at 10:58 am to
quote:

Green's "fumble" = we're going downfield, auburn hasn't been able to stop us. likely 7 pts our way, instead it's 7 pts to Auburn. a likely 14 pt swing.


You act like the ball never came out of his hands.

How can you blame the ref for not calling it a fumble? He's laying on top of a defender and the ball comes out. It was bang-bang on the knee being down. That play would have been upheld if it weren't called a fumble.

That's not bad reffing or a missed call. It was a close call.
Posted by WaveHog
Austin, TX
Member since May 2008
6968 posts
Posted on 10/17/10 at 11:00 am to
quote:

That's not bad reffing or a missed call. It was a close call.



no, i'm acting like it should have been overturned on review. just like the announcers, who are looking at the same video as the review official, kept saying. gary and verne themselves kept saying "this will be overturned. he's down"

Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
37728 posts
Posted on 10/17/10 at 11:01 am to
My take is that Auburn wins if game is called flawlessly, which none are, but the majority of the calls certainly went their way.
Posted by AUTigLN11
Marietta
Member since Mar 2010
4833 posts
Posted on 10/17/10 at 11:01 am to
Ticky tack? Haha, ok. I appreciate you at least responding but these were bad calls that went Arkansas's way. The PI ball was uncatchable even if his arm was touching his back. The spot was bad. The push off was blatant and the roughing the passer was pathetic. Ark may still have scored on the push off series but the other two kept drives alive and the PI turned a FG into a TD. That's at least 17 points if you want to play that game.
This post was edited on 10/17/10 at 11:02 am
Posted by cameronml
Member since Oct 2007
1934 posts
Posted on 10/17/10 at 11:01 am to
quote:

not bogus. the DB was beat to the corner so he hooked his arm completely around the WR. that was PI.


Have you seen where the ball was thrown? It was un-catchable, should never have been a penalty.
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19267 posts
Posted on 10/17/10 at 11:02 am to
Dude that is just tough to watch. What a bunch of shite
Posted by WaveHog
Austin, TX
Member since May 2008
6968 posts
Posted on 10/17/10 at 11:06 am to
his arm wasn't just touching his back. he had his arm completely around the WR.

if you want to keep doing this back and forth, i saw at least one other PI on AU that wasn't called, and Kodi Burns' "excellent" block in the first half when he cut out the legs of an Arkansas defender was made while the ball was in the air, which is illegal.

you seriously can't compare two shitty calls that completely changed who possesses the ball and directly led to giving AU TD's with a PI call that, if not called, would have ended with Arkansas getting 3 pts instead of 7
Posted by AUTigLN11
Marietta
Member since Mar 2010
4833 posts
Posted on 10/17/10 at 11:07 am to
quote:

you seriously can't compare two shitty calls that completely changed who possesses the ball and directly led to giving AU TD's with a PI call that, if not called, would have ended with Arkansas getting 3 pts instead of 7


No but you can with three others that directly led to Arkansas TDs. Push off, bad spot, roughing the passer on 3rd down.
Posted by WaveHog
Austin, TX
Member since May 2008
6968 posts
Posted on 10/17/10 at 11:10 am to
push off = at worst 3 pts for arkansas instead of 7

bad spot = rewatch it. show me evidence that it was a terrible spot. the yellow line was compeletely off from the marker so don't go off of that.

roughing the passer = i still don't remember that one.
Posted by cameronml
Member since Oct 2007
1934 posts
Posted on 10/17/10 at 11:10 am to
quote:

his arm wasn't just touching his back. he had his arm completely around the WR.

if you want to keep doing this back and forth, i saw at least one other PI on AU that wasn't called, and Kodi Burns' "excellent" block in the first half when he cut out the legs of an Arkansas defender was made while the ball was in the air, which is illegal.

you seriously can't compare two shitty calls that completely changed who possesses the ball and directly led to giving AU TD's with a PI call that, if not called, would have ended with Arkansas getting 3 pts instead of 7


Just face it, you couldn't stop Newton and your backup QB eventually folded like a tent under the pressure of the 4th quarter. That's the ultimate reason why you lost the game. Accept it and move on.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
80633 posts
Posted on 10/17/10 at 11:15 am to
No game is called perfectly and AU does occasionally get a bad call against it...but every big, game changing call will go AU's way. At least it seems that way.

I'm still jaded by the 2006 LSU game, the worst hose job in the history of organized football, a win AU should not be proud of.
Posted by WaveHog
Austin, TX
Member since May 2008
6968 posts
Posted on 10/17/10 at 11:16 am to
quote:

Just face it, you couldn't stop Newton and your backup QB eventually folded like a tent under the pressure of the 4th quarter. That's the ultimate reason why you lost the game. Accept it and move on.


i concede all of that.

still doesn't change the fact that we got blatantly fricked by the refs.
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