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I just think it’s funny it took Trump 100 days in office to realize Putin doesn’t want the war to end.
Why are you guys knocking your fellow voting bloc? Dearborn went for Trump in 2024. Muslims love Trump, what can you say?
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How, exactly, are these retirements being destroyed? A temporary drop in value, which will eventually go back up? It's a paper loss only. Unless you are a dipshit and cash out in fear, taking your loss. Ride it out. You'll be fine.


Japan’s market peaked around 1990, crashed, and didn’t reached that level again until last year. So no, markets don’t always go up.
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I can’t tell if the markets matter or not around here.


They only matter if Trump tells them they matter. There’s no independent critical thought here.
These are great stats, but here’s another one: 54% of Americans have retirement accounts (401k or similar) and each one of them gets a vote.
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Joe destroyed the economy. It was a house of cards!


His presidency is sandwiched by Trump’s, but somehow he’s responsible…ok.
Wait, I thought we needed the money from tariffs to pay down the debt? So why do we want free trade now?

Strange how the end goal of this depends on what thread you click on.
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No, he did what absolutely had to be done. It should have been a priority for every president since LBJ did what he could to ruin the country. We are 37 trillion in debt. We got there because of tariff and trade imbalances and congress's spending problem and inability to make an actual budget. We will get it turned around and those that wept and sobbed about the tariffs will be able to enjoy it too.


You forgot trumps first term tax bill that has added trillions to the debt total. Plus, he was the one who started handing out checks in 2020 for COVID. And have you seen the debt load of his private businesses? He managed to put casinos in debt.

But let’s trust him to be the guy to reduce the biggest debt load in history….
Reverse the images, replace Dems with Republicans/Trumpers, and you’d be describing the current situation.
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The stock market is not the economy. End of discussion.


I’d love to dig up some old threads from 2022 when the market crashed under Biden. Would this board have the same disregard for the stock market and say ‘muh boomers’?
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The top 1% own 50% of stocks...sorry not sorry


Doesn’t mean the other 99% aren’t materially affected. With that attitude, expect the Dems to take control back in the midterms, unless Don rigs it (which looks likely)
I can’t wait for when we get double digit inflation. So much winning.
If this was the case, why doesn’t Trump just say that?

Why do his supporters have to hunt around trying to guess why he does things, hoping they’re for the best?
Vietnam “wants to” cut tariffs to zero…let me know when they actually do.
Also, they don’t have to raise their price all the way to competitors. They can still be below their competitors and gain share while growing margins, and the US consumer pays more.
Ok, keep telling yourself that and let me know in 6-12 months.
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Tariffs are a form of tax that is used to discourage the purchase of foreign made goods and encourage the purchase of goods manufactured domestically.


Except domestic companies will also feel inclined to raise their prices because their competitors just became a lot more expensive relative to them.

Companies price their products relative to competitors. If all of your competitors were forced to increase prices to maintain margins, you’d be stupid not to raise your price and reap the higher margin. This is what happened post-COVID with rampant inflation, and will happen again.
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I feel your pain. The weird thing is that my wife's daily purchase is mostly pills. She has about 100 bottles. Half of them guarantee to keep you young looking and half guarantee to keep you skinny. None of them come from foreign countries so there are no tariffs.


Even if products are 100% produced in the US, their prices will go up.

Think about it - you make a widget that is made in the US and you charge $10 for it. Your competitor imports from China and charges $10. Now your competitor needs to charge $12 to offset tariffs. You can now raise your price to $11 and you’ll be cheaper than your competitor while making more $/unit. Who losses in this situation? The American consumer.
There’s nothing to fall for. All they need to do is check their 401k.
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20% plus inflation over 4 years, lol. That’s a low estimate. Average family needed about $60,000 a year to afford a house in 2020. That amount is now $100,000. Thanks Joe, lol


And tariffs will solve that?