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Posted on 7/18/09 at 1:21 pm
Posted by stowns
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Posted on 7/18/09 at 1:21 pm
plays 3 SEC opponents this year...should we just trade them for Vandy?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/18/09 at 1:22 pm to
Sounds good to me.
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25751 posts
Posted on 7/18/09 at 1:26 pm to
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plays 3 SEC opponents this year...should we just trade them for Mississippi State?
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
79243 posts
Posted on 7/18/09 at 1:29 pm to
No, Georgia Tech (Dodd) left the SEC to be independent, them...
Posted by deaux68
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2007
5283 posts
Posted on 7/18/09 at 1:33 pm to
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LSURulzSEC


Hold up. I thought we weren't supposed to live in the past.
Posted by Kind Objectivist
Suwanee
Member since Jul 2009
633 posts
Posted on 7/18/09 at 1:39 pm to
Nah, frick those nerds
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
79243 posts
Posted on 7/18/09 at 1:40 pm to
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Hold up. I thought we weren't supposed to live in the past.


and were not...how exactly is not letting them back in living in the past?
Posted by deaux68
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2007
5283 posts
Posted on 7/18/09 at 1:46 pm to
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how exactly is not letting them back in living in the past?


Why are you not letting them back in?
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
79243 posts
Posted on 7/18/09 at 1:57 pm to
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Why are you not letting them back in?


If a team, especially one that was a charter member, leaves the conference why would you want to let them back in years later?

As far at Tech, a lot has to do with your very school...

quote:

Dodd's tenure included Georgia Tech's withdrawal from the Southeastern Conference. The initial spark for Dodd's withdrawal was a historic feud with Alabama Crimson Tide Coach Bear Bryant. The feud began when Tech was visiting the Tide at Denny Stadium in 1961. After a Tech punt, Alabama fair-caught the ball. Chick Granning of Tech was playing coverage and relaxed after the signal for the fair catch. Darwin Holt of Alabama continued play and smashed his elbow into Granning's face causing severe fracturing in his face, a broken nose, and blood-filled sinuses. Granning was knocked unconscious and suffered a severe concussion, the result of which left him unable to play football ever again. Dodd sent Bryant a letter asking Bryant to suspend Holt after game film indicated Holt had intentionally injured Granning. Bryant never suspended Holt. The lack of discipline infuriated Dodd and sparked Dodd's interest in withdrawing from the SEC.

Another issue of concern for Dodd was Alabama's and other SEC schools' over-recruitment of players. Universities would recruit more players than they had roster space for. During the summer practice sessions, the teams in question would cut the players well after signing day thus preventing the cut players from finding new colleges to play for. Dodd appealed the SEC administration to punish the "tryout camps" of his fellow SEC members but the SEC did not. Finally, Dodd withdrew Georgia Tech from the SEC in 1963. Tech would remain an independent like Notre Dame and Penn State (at the time) during the final four years of Dodd's coaching tenure. In 1967, Dodd passed the head coach position to his favorite coordinator, Bud Carson. Dodd simply retained his athletic director position, which he had acquired in 1950. He would not retire from athletic directing until 1976.




Posted by deaux68
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2007
5283 posts
Posted on 7/18/09 at 2:00 pm to
I wasn't arguing to let them or not. I have just been told over and over don't live in the past. Seems like this...

quote:

Dodd's tenure included Georgia Tech's withdrawal from the Southeastern Conference.


was in the past.
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
79243 posts
Posted on 7/18/09 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

was in the past.


IMO that you study the past to learn not to make the same mistakes twice?

If a university left once because they didn't like the way things were or going what would keep them from doing the same thing again instead of sticking it out and continue to fight for change instead of bailing and disrupting the balance of your conference?

Yes you could say they learned from their mistake and wouldn't do it again, but IMO you don't let any team that left a conference back in, you give another school that has never been a member of your conference the opportunity...
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216135 posts
Posted on 7/18/09 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

If a university left once because they didn't like the way things were or going what would keep them from doing the same thing again instead of sticking it out and continue to fight for change instead of bailing and disrupting the balance of your conference?

Yes you could say they learned from their mistake and wouldn't do it again, but IMO you don't let any team that left a conference back in, you give another school that has never been a member of your conference the opportunity...



Well put Rulz!!!!
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
79243 posts
Posted on 7/18/09 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

Well put Rulz!!!!



Posted by rangers911
Member since Jun 2009
5159 posts
Posted on 7/18/09 at 5:20 pm to
I'd love to have Tech back in the SEC especially with Johnson at the helm.

Posted by miledawg
athens ga
Member since Sep 2005
2110 posts
Posted on 7/18/09 at 5:34 pm to
not one to defend Tech, but i think Dodd had legitimate grounds for a beef.

wouldn't replace Vandy but even though it's purely a pipe dream i think it would be interesting to have tech back.
Posted by rangers911
Member since Jun 2009
5159 posts
Posted on 7/18/09 at 5:42 pm to
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not one to defend Tech, but i think Dodd had legitimate grounds for a beef.


Dodd had respect for Bryant until that day after that he had no use for Bama or Bryant and said as much repeatedly. He also said he regretted leaving the SEC even though he felt it was the correct decission.

I wouldn't replace Vandy I'd just like to have Tech back.
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
79243 posts
Posted on 7/18/09 at 5:46 pm to
quote:

not one to defend Tech, but i think Dodd had legitimate grounds for a beef.


I agree...he had a legit beef but so did every other school that wasn't involved in over-recruiting tactics yet they and Tulane were the only one's that bailed...

Now from reading Bear Bryant in '75 agreed to sponsor Tech back into the SEC but Dodd knew there were other schools that would not vote them back in and Dodd regretting pulling Tech out of the SEC...

Good read on Georgia Tech and Tulane leaving the SEC LINK
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161245 posts
Posted on 7/18/09 at 5:49 pm to
LSU and GT switch... that way LSU can be the USC of ACC.... undefeated and BCS bowl game every year
Posted by miledawg
athens ga
Member since Sep 2005
2110 posts
Posted on 7/18/09 at 5:57 pm to
that IS a good read. i wonder if uga was one of those schools barring Tech's re-entrance? no reason to give an in state rival a boost in recruiting, visibility.
Posted by miledawg
athens ga
Member since Sep 2005
2110 posts
Posted on 7/18/09 at 6:00 pm to
i dont think any SEC team could perennially dominate the ACC. Hate to admit it, but they got some good teams over there, and some potentially great teams as well.
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