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re: "Vacated" wins do not equate to losses...
Posted on 6/11/09 at 10:11 am to BamaJD88
Posted on 6/11/09 at 10:11 am to BamaJD88
Vacating these wins makes no sense. The university had no idea that the players had obtained these textbooks improperly until mid-season 2007. They suspended the players right away when they found out.
I understand the premise for the forfeiture of games under Stallings because from what I had heard the university did not really perform due dilligence on the Antonio Langham issue before the 1993 season.
ETA: Although, I don't personally count the forfeit in 1993 as a win for State. We lost on the field where it really matters. We had the same thing happen to us at State in 1976 and 1977.
I understand the premise for the forfeiture of games under Stallings because from what I had heard the university did not really perform due dilligence on the Antonio Langham issue before the 1993 season.
ETA: Although, I don't personally count the forfeit in 1993 as a win for State. We lost on the field where it really matters. We had the same thing happen to us at State in 1976 and 1977.
This post was edited on 6/11/09 at 10:14 am
Posted on 6/11/09 at 10:39 am to Bankshot
I have watched SEC football for over 35 years and my opinion is this. And yes I know about opinions so spare me the colorful dialogue.
Alabama has had and still has a culture of cheating with their football program. They have still not learned their lesson and most likely never will. Who knows really who did what, when and where with these books. The point is that Bama has no reason to cheat but they still do. It goes way beyond Saban's ability to control which is a shame. Cheating or winning at all costs is a CULTURE with ALABAMA football.
Forget about saying everyone does it they just don't get caught. If that is the case then you are implying that BAMA folks are not that bright because they get caught more than any school in history. I know you Bama fans don't mean that so what's the problem????
I hate the NCAA but it is about time that BAMA and all other repeat offender schools get hammered hard. They have had their chance to get clean in every area and have chosen not too.
If this was LSU I would say the same things. Aren't you Bama guys getting a little embarrassed about the constant cheating.
Alabama has had and still has a culture of cheating with their football program. They have still not learned their lesson and most likely never will. Who knows really who did what, when and where with these books. The point is that Bama has no reason to cheat but they still do. It goes way beyond Saban's ability to control which is a shame. Cheating or winning at all costs is a CULTURE with ALABAMA football.
Forget about saying everyone does it they just don't get caught. If that is the case then you are implying that BAMA folks are not that bright because they get caught more than any school in history. I know you Bama fans don't mean that so what's the problem????
I hate the NCAA but it is about time that BAMA and all other repeat offender schools get hammered hard. They have had their chance to get clean in every area and have chosen not too.
If this was LSU I would say the same things. Aren't you Bama guys getting a little embarrassed about the constant cheating.
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