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OU @ SC, Sat, 18 Oct / OU wins 26-7

Posted on 10/12/25 at 10:04 am
Posted by OU Guy
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 10:04 am
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Posted by dustbowl
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 1:11 pm to
How bad is Mateer's re-injury?

The incision ripped open, maybe the metal dislodged so that the fracture is mis-aligned?

My guess is he's lost for the season. That wound absolutely will NOT heal if it is pounded every week.

It will only get worse by the week.
Posted by OU Guy
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by OU Guy
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 2:09 pm to
Mateer is fine. It was mental. All the doc distractions hurt him and the team. Had we just went in with a plan to play Hawk who knows. We dominated the first half yet only got 6. I think Hawk could have broken some runs. And made better pass decisions. We have a QB coach now.

Mateer likely comes back next year. Which means Hawk likely transfers. Still have everything in front of us but Sat will tell us a lot.

Our assistant coaches suck right now. OLine, RB and TE are bad. And WR isn’t much better. Talented players who are one dimensional. At this level and all the years its fireable
Posted by OU Guy
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 5:39 pm to
Wow, inexcusable. BV says Mateer never got any 1st team reps (this is what he means good on good). So we had a QB who did get all the reps and we inserted one who didn’t.

Why not start Hawkins and see how he does? He had the gameplan and got in sync with players. He has the best chance to break tackles running. Keep the passing game short, which even with Mateer when we did he moved the ball but was shakey.

And some blame has to go to Arbuckle who would have supported Mateer in convincing BV to start him. Hawkins has had a year to develop since his true freshman year. And has a QB coach. This irks me to no end. Especially once Mateer threw that end zone INT before half.

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Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 5:44 pm to
Yes, yes, yes. It certainly would have been an easier pill to swallow if Hawk went out there, gave it his best shot, and just proved to not be talented enough. At least we’d know they left it all on the field. I certainly can’t say that based on what we know.

ETA: Arch, his team, and the whole Texas fan base are still a bunch of pussies.
This post was edited on 10/12/25 at 5:46 pm
Posted by Naked Bootleg
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 6:46 pm to
quote:

Hawkins has had a year to develop since his true freshman year. And has a QB coach. This irks me to no end. Especially once Mateer threw that end zone INT before half.


And that's when they should have realized Mateer was rusty or whatever. I was surprised to see him start the 2nd half.
Posted by Naked Bootleg
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 6:47 pm to
Honestly the whole offensive gameplan was meh
Posted by OU Guy
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 7:00 pm to
I agree the gameplan had too many wasted high gamble plays. Against a good D you have to take advantage of every down. We got down there in first half and settled via some bad playcalling.

We have no running game and the short passing was working until we stopped using it on their side. Pass to set up run. I know in this game the team with most rushing yards usually wins but the short passing is like a run. And who knows when you break one.

Its only one loss and we have rest of year to still get all we want. But this showed a crack in our coaching staff that I thought was mostly behind us. Sat looms large, there are only hard games ahead. I still have Tenn and Bama as losses and if that holds up can we sneak in playoffs with those 3 losses?
Posted by OU Guy
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 7:34 am to
One thing to think about. BV runs D and has all his assistants on that side of ball. Yet Arbuckle runs O and does not have all his choices. It would be fair to let Arbuckle pick his assistants once the year is over.

Unless the roof caves in I think Brent is safe for next year because we have a lame duck AD and it would be hard to pick one without the new AD in place and having time. But Arbuckle needs to have his assistant picks in place to hold him accountable and right now he is using prior staff.
This post was edited on 10/13/25 at 7:36 am
Posted by Naked Bootleg
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 2:53 pm to
100% agree, it's nonsensical and Brent should know better after his "keep it in the family" Littrell promotion to OC

Man.. I like what Brent's done with the program's foundation so far but I still wonder if he's really got what it take to be a HBC at OU.
Posted by dustbowl
hOUston, Baja Oklahoma
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 3:12 pm to
Well, I've moved thru the stages of grief pretty quick.

Now I'm thirsty for a tall, cold glass of Crimson Kool-Aid.

After listening to Gabe & Ted, their breakdown of what went right and what went wrong made sense of the trauma.

Such as: since the TE's aren't producing - just don't use those plays that rely on good TE play. Instead put in an actual lineman (yeah I know, the OL) and run backs that we've seen produce. Or, spread the D with several WRs.

G&T gave a number of concrete adjustments, tweaks that are do-able now to improve our play for the conference part of the season.

So, I expect we "balance the ledgers" on Lil' Beamer for his antics last year.

BOOOOOMER
Posted by Naked Bootleg
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 3:41 pm to
Did they mention how our all-world punter had the worst game of his career?
Posted by OU Guy
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 5:03 pm to
Thing about punters is you never know what the call was. Meaning did the ST coach instruct to kick short to have better coverage? Sometimes punters can kick too good and out-kick the coverage allowing returner plenty of space/time to pick holes.

When he kicked it seemed to me he didn’t fully put his leg into it. But then it came off pretty low meaning less hang time and still allowed time to return.

As for the loss. In first half we had their number. Our D was great and held them. It was only our O that failed. Settling for FGs. Our OC wasted some plays on gambles which then left us behind the chains.

In 3rd qtr we had them backed up in 3rd and long operating in end zone. All we had to do is stop them right then and we take over in great field position. Somehow we didn’t cover them and guy made a great crossing pattern while qb was under pressure. That was one game changer.

Then the punt, we were only down 13-6 with over 9 minutes left. Cover the punt and we can hold and maybe go score. Sure, there 3 pushing in back on return but we also had poor field discipline.

Anyways, it sucks to lose but that game was there for the taking. If those 2 FGs are TDs then 14 vice 6 plus could have had at least 3 more before halftime INT. 17 points likely gives us enough to grind out a win as we squandered most of 4th qtr trying to score max points vs if we had lead then we handled it way different.

We must go win in convincing fashion Sat. Kobe said on radio this morning all were in working Sun and in good spirits. They know on D the tackling was not to their standards and can be fixed.
Posted by dustbowl
hOUston, Baja Oklahoma
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 5:57 pm to
How so?
Posted by dustbowl
hOUston, Baja Oklahoma
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 6:13 pm to
The guys hand-picked to impose coverage on ST have to make the tackle.

Everybody knows that any kick can go bad, the other 10 guys didn't do their job as the last line of defense.

Not the punter's fault the other guys didn't make a tackle. Team sport.
Posted by OU Guy
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 7:43 pm to
Can get Allbarn AD to write the letter lol

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Posted by Naked Bootleg
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 6:42 am to
I'm not talking about the TD return but that wasn't his best effort either. His first punt went 22 yards, if you recall. He was just off his game like the rest of the team
Posted by Zgeo
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 10:17 am to
If Mateer had no first team reps then there was NO game plan implemented on the field. How can the coaches be this stupid. Hawkins had looked good the week before and would have surprised Texas by being in the game

Now who starts this week. Mateer looks terrible and a week won’t change much. If Mateer is in some coaches need to be fired

Ok I just read the info it was Arbuuckle he never considered startig Hawkins. BV said Mateer never had first team reps. Seems like Arbuckle made a bad decision. Arbuckles decision hurt Mateers career. Sounds like Arbuckle just doesn’t have enough experience Problem is Arbuckles decision derailed OUs QB succession plans because Mateer won’t be getting a good draft grade and Hawkins ( who has really improved) will be starting for some other team in 26

Add on

I just read Mateer is starting the SC game. Wooo boy. I like Mateer but like I said 2 things can be true you can like Mateer and start Hawkins when Mateer is not ready. If Mateer flops again that spells the end for Arbuckle and sets Mateer back substantially. It seems like Arbuckle and BV didn’t take the RRSO seriously because they started a QB with no first team reps and very limited practice. Doesn’t seem like Sooner football when you don’t take the RRSO seriously
This post was edited on 10/15/25 at 11:56 am
Posted by OU Guy
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:25 pm to
He has no catches this year so it opens a slot for portals or a late commit. We always assume the player left but sometimes candid private conversations happen and they are told its best to part ways.

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