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Posted on 10/10/24 at 5:18 pm
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 10/10/24 at 5:18 pm
Do yall have anything serious you want to talk about, regarding football?


I don't like the fair catch rule on kickoffs, but I understand it's all for player safety.

I think zone counter when the safety is walking up during the snap count to the strong side is a good idea, until the safety bails and they blitz the corner from the weak side.

With all of the zone defense being played, why don't you see more flood plays with a wheel route behind it?
Posted by Aggie in TN
Franklin TN
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Posted on 10/10/24 at 5:19 pm to
Great title for the rant.

I’m sure this will spur intellectual debate and ideation.

I’ll be by the fire in the salon drinking bourbon.
Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Posted on 10/10/24 at 5:20 pm to
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Do yall have anything serious you want to talk about, regarding football?


I don't like the fair catch rule on kickoffs, but I understand it's all for player safety.

I don't like how the fair catch rule was abused by a UNT player against Arkansas.

quote:

I think zone counter when the safety is walking up during the snap count to the strong side is a good idea, until the safety bails and they blitz the corner from the weak side.

I agree.

quote:

With all of the zone defense being played, why don't you see more flood plays with a wheel route behind it?

Because of my lack to access to games/commentary, I don't know a lot of football terms. What's a flood play and a wheel route?
Posted by Syd
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Posted on 10/10/24 at 5:20 pm to
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I’ll be by the fire in the salon


Gay
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
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Posted on 10/10/24 at 5:21 pm to
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Serious Football Discussion



Posted by Bush League
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Posted on 10/10/24 at 5:21 pm to
Targeting needs a makeover. Maybe add “launching” or “spearing” as a 15 yard penalty and no ejection
Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Posted on 10/10/24 at 5:23 pm to
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Targeting needs a makeover.

I agree.
Posted by PapaDunk
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Posted on 10/10/24 at 5:24 pm to
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70540 posts
Posted on 10/10/24 at 5:24 pm to
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Because of my lack to access to games/commentary, I don't know a lot of football terms. What's a flood play and a wheel route?


In zone defense, a defender has a responsibility to a certain part of the field in pass coverage. He's not assigned a man to cover, that would be man coverage. He's assigned a zone, a section, of the field that's his responsibility. On offense, a flood play is when you recognize they are in a zone coverage so you send 2, 3+ receivers into that zone where there's only one defender. Another term for a flood play is "zone beater".

A wheel route also has different names, but it's when a player, usually a running back, or another eligible receiver, stutters in pass protection for a second or two for the receivers to haul arse downfield and bring defenders with them, then he hauls arse out behind them with nobody to cover him.

You can youtube many examples of this for visual references.
Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Posted on 10/10/24 at 5:25 pm to
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a flood play is when you recognize they are in a zone coverage so you send 2, 3+ receivers into that zone where there's only one defender. Another term for a flood play is "zone beater".

A wheel route also has different names, but it's when a player, usually a running back, or another eligible receiver, stutters in pass protection for a second or two for the receivers to haul arse downfield and bring defenders with them, then he hauls arse out behind them with nobody to cover him.

Thank you!

So they probably don't flood a zone because...?
Posted by GetPiggywithIt
Ouachita Mountains of Arkansas
Member since Dec 2022
3460 posts
Posted on 10/10/24 at 5:32 pm to
anyone who fakes an injury should not be offered any protection
in other words sweeping the leg should be legal against the acting player
If they want to cheat then they need to really get hurt
Posted by WestSideTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/10/24 at 5:34 pm to
AI video reviews of plays as they happen.

Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Posted on 10/10/24 at 5:35 pm to
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anyone who fakes an injury should not be offered any protection
in other words sweeping the leg should be legal against the acting player
If they want to cheat then they need to really get hurt

This has turned rather nicely into a rule change thread.
Posted by AUTubaHerd
Member since Nov 2012
2065 posts
Posted on 10/10/24 at 5:38 pm to
quote:

Because of my lack to access to games/commentary, I don't know a lot of football terms. What's a flood play and a wheel route?


I’d recommend watching the Manning Cast for Monday Night Football, and finding Belichick’s and Gruden’s YouTube channels. They’ve helped me learn a lot more of the X’s and O’s.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70540 posts
Posted on 10/10/24 at 5:38 pm to
quote:

So they probably don't flood a zone because...?


I don't know. It works on Techmo Bowl and NCAA Football, the legacy edition.
Posted by BigSneezy
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 10/10/24 at 5:39 pm to
No. Post bewbs.
Posted by Aggie in TN
Franklin TN
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 10/10/24 at 5:57 pm to
Salons are rooms of a more civilized time where men drank brandy and debated the topics of the day.

I’m sorry your poor Alabama education is not working.

You should know what a salon is because most of the slave mansions in the south had them.

Not a hair salon you douche.
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
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Posted on 10/10/24 at 5:59 pm to
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Serious Football Discussion Thread
How many pages will it make it to until posters start porn bombing?
Posted by Radio One
On the banks of the Wabash
Member since Sep 2023
4794 posts
Posted on 10/10/24 at 6:07 pm to
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Salons are rooms of a more civilized time where men drank brandy and debated the topics of the day. I’m sorry your poor Alabama education is not working. You should know what a salon is because most of the slave mansions in the south had them. Not a hair salon you douche.

Cereally?

100/100 times on the Rant somebody’s mistyped “saloon.”

I mean, I dropped a Kenyon Review reference in the other “serious football” thread and nobody picked up on it.
Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Posted on 10/10/24 at 6:13 pm to
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100/100 times on the Rant somebody’s mistyped “saloon.”

He spelled it correctly.

Google salon + brandy.
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