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re: The SEC umps did not mess up. The LSU catcher charged home plate without the ball.

Posted on 5/26/24 at 8:35 am to
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77459 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 8:35 am to
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he SEC umps did not mess up. The LSU catcher charged home plate without the ball.


Actually they did...the batter clearly steps out of the batters box as the pitch is being made which is an auto strike, if there is a runner on base the rule states is two strikes against the batter. In this case it was an 0-2 count with two outs and the batter should have been the final out without the need to tagging the runner stealing from third...

The ump and the entire crew blew the call the home plate ump initially called correctly by calling the base runner out if he was going to ignore the batter stepping out of the box as the pitch was being made (and there was NO balk on the pitcher) so either way the batter or the base runner should have been the final out...

The entire umpiring crew were incompetent in that situation on a non-reviewing play...
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
8762 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 10:13 am to
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the batter clearly steps out of the batters box as the pitch is being made which is an auto strike


Everyone who is saying it is automatically a strike if the batter steps out of the box are wrong. Here is the rule.

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If the batter leaves the batter's box with both feet prior to the pitch and the pitcher delivers the pitch, play has not been delayed and there is no penalty for violation of Rule 6.02(c). The umpire will call the pitch as it is – a ball or strike [(per Rule 6.02(b)].


It is just called as a ball or a strike. But since the catcher extended his mitt out in front of the plate before the pitch got to the plate, it couldn’t be called a ball or a strike.

If you watch the replay the ump doesn’t call it either way. Instead he starts walking onto the field as the play was dead.

The catcher can not catch a pitch in front of home plate. I don’t know why so many people don’t seem to grasp that.

Clearly most don’t understand the rule if the batter steps out of the box, so why should we expect you to understand an even more rarely enforced rule.

Posted by LSUnKaty
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2008
4367 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 10:21 am to
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Actually they did...the batter clearly steps out of the batters box as the pitch is being made which is an auto strike, if there is a runner on base the rule states is two strikes against the batter.
what rule?

Rule 7b states it’s a ball or strike based on what the ump calls.


Rule 7.d.1.d states the batter can leave the box if a defensive player attempts a play on a runner at any base.

I think the ump screwed up because the catcher did not step on or in front of the base or touch the batter or bat, but this argument about an “auto-strike” is just wrong.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
7009 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 11:17 am to
For the batter to have an influence he must get time out called by the Ump.


Read a book .....Batter was nothing more than window dressing for some of you to bitch more ......
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