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re: Kadyn Proctor expected to leave Iowa, return to Alabama

Posted on 3/21/24 at 5:28 pm to
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 5:28 pm to
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It doesn't "need" to happen. It would happen simply because someone saw it as an opportunity to make money.

It’s not about someone else making money. It’s about options for the players. The best high school football players are going to play in the NFL one day whether there is college football or not.

College programs do not hold the futures of these players in their hands. In the absence of college football, a minor league would be created and sustained (regardless of how much money it made) to develop players until they are ready for the NFL.

Right now, the colleges are doing a fine job of developing players - but they’re not necessary.

I mean, if you want to bring your lawnmower over and cut my grass regularly and save me some hassle, I will let you. But that is not the same as me needing you to do it as if I’m incapable of it.

The NFL doesn’t have to worry about developing 18-22 year old talent, but they would if they needed to.

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Not really. Again, skill is relative

Fans are used to a high standard of athleticism. It’s silly to think that interest wouldn’t drop to some degree without the big dogs.

The Kentucky Derby is a hell of a brand, but no one wants to watch 15 donkeys run in it. They want the thoroughbreds.

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The NFL does not want them

They certainly will in a few years.

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The NFL doesn't want to waste money training and paying for these kids.

They don’t want to but they can and would without the college game to do it for them. Someone is going to develop Johnny Fivestar whether the colleges do it or not.

But if you want Johnny Fivestar to contribute to your multibillion dollar industry, the bragging rights of countless fans, and keeping $20,000,000 coaching staffs employed, that’s going to cost more than a scholarship in 2024.

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And you ignorantly pretend like it's of 0 value despite every bit of evidence that says otherwise.

Zero value? Of course there’s value. Enough value? IMO, no.
This post was edited on 3/21/24 at 8:54 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
23000 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 1:36 am to
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It’s not about someone else making money. It’s about options for the players. The best high school football players are going to play in the NFL one day whether there is college football or not.

College programs do not hold the futures of these players in their hands. In the absence of college football, a minor league would be created and sustained (regardless of how much money it made) to develop players until they are ready for the NFL.

Right now, the colleges are doing a fine job of developing players - but they’re not necessary.

I mean, if you want to bring your lawnmower over and cut my grass regularly and save me some hassle, I will let you. But that is not the same as me needing you to do it as if I’m incapable of it.

The NFL doesn’t have to worry about developing 18-22 year old talent, but they would if they needed to.


It is about someone else making money. That is what drives the free market. That is why people have attempted what you are claiming and failed.

You just want to say all that bullshite about it's "not needed" to ignore the fact that none of those leagues have ever been able to provide even a fraction of the benefits the schools give the players with just "their scholarship".

It has nothing to do with need and the fact that the college scholarship benefits are damn near impossible to beat.

And you don't give a remote shite about the players. If you did, you wouldn't want to cater to the 1% while screwing over the 99%. You're just on some ignorant tirade where you feel athletes are victims.

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Fans are used to a high standard of athleticism. It’s silly to think that interest wouldn’t drop to some degree without the big dogs.

The Kentucky Derby is a hell of a brand, but no one wants to watch 15 donkeys run in it. They want the thoroughbreds.



Again, you are only talking about 1% of college players. This huge drop off you imagine does not exist. Players that will not sniff the NFL make plays every Saturday.

Take the only the top 1% of horses out of the Kentucky Derby and nothing changes.

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They certainly will in a few years.


After they have trained and gotten coached up. Something you keep pretending is worth nothing, which contributes to your ignorant positions.

The kid who spent 3 years at home doing jack shite isn't getting hired at google either, the one who did the training is.

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They don’t want to but they can and would without the college game to do it for them. Someone is going to develop Johnny Fivestar whether the colleges do it or not.

But if you want Johnny Fivestar to contribute to your multibillion dollar industry, the bragging rights of countless fans, and keeping $20,000,000 coaching staffs employed, that’s going to cost more than a scholarship in 2024.



The NFL already keeps a practice squad. They make about $200k(rookie)-$300k(veteran) a year, assuming they last all year, before taxes. And that's for players they don't offer support for.

And they do that for only 16 players. So a little over 3 million budget as I'm feeling generous.

So now you are talking about replacing that with kids fresh out of high school, who they have to provide a decent amount of support for in terms of coaching, weight training, nutrition and so on.

If they do it, they aren't going to pay them anywhere near as much as the practice squad players do now. They'll have to increase the costs for the staff to handle them, and they'll have to increase the number of players they keep.

Not to mention in college they have an education to fall back on, while if they go straight to the NFL they can be cut/fired at any point and won't have shite but the few paychecks they received. And they aren't going to sit around and wait, as soon as they realize you aren't among what would be the 1% in college football, you're fired and gone.

Kids who don't develop physically for a few years are going to have little to no chance.

So basically, you'd be screwing the players over because you completely ignore the actual value of the scholarship. You completely ignore how much that 20 million dollar coaching staff is a budget to support and teach the players. How much that budget matters in their chances to even be in the top 1%.

Until you start recognizing the value in things, you're going to keep making dumb arguments.
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