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re: Clemson joins FSU in ACC Lawsuit

Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:01 am to
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:01 am to
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Personally, I would much prefer teams in Virginia and North Carolina to expand the TV markets.
People say that, but I don't think it's relevant anymore. The networks/streaming services are national.

I'm in Louisiana and an LSU fan,... I watch Clemson because they're known. I watch Ohio State and Oklahoma because they're generally quite good.

I haven't watched a Virginia team since Michael Vick was at Tech, and haven't paid attention to any NC team since the early 80's (with LT and Kelvin Bryant). You add them to the SEC, and all you get are teams you expect a W against when you play.


I do think it's important to stay regional, for travel and fanbase rivalries. To that end, I think the SEC would like to keep Fla State and Clemson, as they fit the profile (good programs in the Southeast), and it locks the Big 10 out of our geographic base. Southeastern football is the best, and has the best talent base.
Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:34 am to
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People say that, but I don't think it's relevant anymore. The networks/streaming services are national. I'm in Louisiana and an LSU fan,... I watch Clemson because they're known. I watch Ohio State and Oklahoma because they're generally quite good. I haven't watched a Virginia team since Michael Vick was at Tech, and haven't paid attention to any NC team since the early 80's (with LT and Kelvin Bryant). You add them to the SEC, and all you get are teams you expect a W against when you play. I do think it's important to stay regional, for travel and fanbase rivalries. To that end, I think the SEC would like to keep Fla State and Clemson, as they fit the profile (good programs in the Southeast), and it locks the Big 10 out of our geographic base. Southeastern football is the best, and has the best talent base.


Whether you’re getting espn via cable or internet (still cable) makes no difference. It’s been national broadcasts for 3 decades. It’s still about what moves the needle. Clemson and FSU don’t move the needle enough for the SEC, otherwise they would have already been invited. The only teams that would move the needle are Ohio State, Michigan, Notre Dame, and maybe Penn State. Those teams are the core of the big 10, so obviously will never happen. NC and Virginia at least provide new viewers, but the ACC is already owned by espn, so there is no reason to go there either. Clemson and fsu are also not AAU members, which to this point has been a requirement for Big 10 membership. My guess is a further expanded Big 12 that renegotiates its tv deals.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 1:41 pm to
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People say that, but I don't think it's relevant anymore. The networks/streaming services are national.

I'm in Louisiana and an LSU fan,... I watch Clemson because they're known. I watch Ohio State and Oklahoma because they're generally quite good.

I haven't watched a Virginia team since Michael Vick was at Tech, and haven't paid attention to any NC team since the early 80's (with LT and Kelvin Bryant). You add them to the SEC, and all you get are teams you expect a W against when you play.

That's not how TV markets work.

TV markets, 90% of the metric, is geographically determined .... in other words, by footprint.

Advertisers and marketers don't care about the scatterings ..... they want the 10 to 8 ring on the target where most of the birdshot will hit. Everything else is gravy.

Few people understand how regionally targeted ad feeds are these day. No longer does every add fed go national ... there is always a certain amount of inventory alloted for regional specific ads.

Virginia and North Carolina are two markets that the SEC has long coveted .... at least as part of Roy Kramer's great vision. He was sure, that one day, the SEC would dominate both of those markets both from a TV footprint perspective AND and talent perspective (academically and athletically).

Of course, Mr Kramer never imagined the level of wokeness that would have to be overcome from both flagship universities which, fwiw, is part of the SEC's lexicon and mandate in modern times. However, from a cultural perspective, NC State and Va Tech would be a better fit in terms of sheer athletic contributions over the long haul.
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