re: What record will it take to bring the idiots back to reality...

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In the last 48 hours they've lost an All American DB and an All American OT. Their talent is taking some serious hits and even the most staunch Bama fan sees this.

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The worst Bama's talent will be even if the absolute worst continues to happen to them with losing players is they'll only have slightly more talent than Texas, LSU and A&M rather than a large edge in talent. Their losses will put them behind UGA and OSU in talent... but that's it.

You have to understand that the "big 3" nationally recruiting (UGA/Bama/OSU) have a significant edge over everyone else in terms of talent. Bama's losses might mean there's only a Big 2 unless Deboer can recruit to fill vacancies next year and through the portal, but Bama's worst case is where LSU is at now, which is still a step ahead of Tennessee.