re: What record will it take to bring the idiots back to reality...

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You know what the first thing I said when Saban was hired? "I hope he gets a good O-Line coach, because his O-lines often seem to suck".

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You obviously didn’t follow him while he was at LSU then. Saban recruited the best O-line talent LSU has ever seen. The 2001 recruiting class of 5 star Andrew Whitworth, 5 star Ben Wilkerson, & 5 star Rudy Niswanger all on the o-line was amazing. Had Matt Mauck not gotten his leg broken against Florida when LSU was up by 31 in the 4th quarter in 2002, LSU would have won the SEC 3 years in a row behind an amazing O-line.