re: Anyone think the players stay to play for Kiffin and TRob ?

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Kiffin also knows exactly how good a DB coach and recruiter TRob is, and anyone on Earth would have known to at least keep Caleb Downs position coach & recruiter.

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I'm not disagreeing with you on TRob as a DB coach and recruiter. Although I'll add the caveat that having Saban as the head coach and probably the best DB coach of all time as a safety net helped TRob prosper. But the only way DeBoer or Kiffin could have kept TRob would be to promote him to DC. And he's been an average at best DC in his career.