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re: Kane is one hell of a coach

Posted on 1/16/24 at 10:00 am to
Posted by Pandy Fackler
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 10:00 am to
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Like when Saban got Golding from UTSA?


I've read through this thread from the beginning and so far, this is the post that resonates.

I remember when Golding was hired and two things come to mind. One, he produced an excellent defense at UTSA. I forget the numbers but it was good. And two, he was supposed to be the golden boy post Lupoi.

Well we saw how all that tuned out.

There are some similarities between the Wommack and Golding hire for sure and folks looking at this with skepticism are right to do it.

This is the big water. In fact, it's the biggest of the big water. It's a frickin' hurt locker, a meat grinder and although all these guys will be given a fair amount of latitude to frick up and not got shite right, there will be a hard stop on all that.

I think in the situation Alabama is currently in, NIL is your friend. With NIL, you no longer have to be a hardcore recruiter, connections don't have to be as well developed. You can be a little inexperienced and green around the edges. It's the money that talks above all else and winning the living room matters a little less than it once did.

For better or for worse (in this case, better) NIL offers clarity in the recruiting game that it never had in the past.

Money.
This post was edited on 1/16/24 at 10:03 am
Posted by Carlton
Good Cop/Bad Cop
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 10:08 am to
Wasn't dude a DC at Indiana?
This post was edited on 1/16/24 at 10:14 am
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19717 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 10:47 am to
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I remember when Golding was hired and two things come to mind. One, he produced an excellent defense at UTSA. I forget the numbers but it was good. And two, he was supposed to be the golden boy post Lupoi.

Well we saw how all that tuned out.

There are some similarities between the Wommack and Golding hire for sure and folks looking at this with skepticism are right to do it.

and yet people wanted Travaris Robinson, the quintessential Golding type coach. Great recruiter, average at best coach. Wommack has been a P5 DC before (which Golding had not) and was a finalist for the broyles award. Look through his defensive coordinator and head coaching career stats. His teams improved in scoring defense ppg year over year every time, often very substantially. Indiana was 81st in scoring defense before he became DC. Year 1 he improved that to #45 and year 2 he improved that to #19. Indiana was at a perpetual talent disadvantage to pretty much every other team in their league.

For comparison, Robinson has only been a DC once, for South Carolina when muschamp was HC, and they were a joke. I know they were a joke because we all laughed at them. He only produced a single decent scoring defense in 4.5 seasons there (fired halfway through the 5th). 2016 #51, 2017 #25, 2018 #67, 2019 #53, 2020 #105 (fired after 7 games). South Carolina under Robinson had way more defensive talent than Indiana under Wommack. At least Golding had produced some consistently good lower division defenses when he was hired. Robinson was an abject failure as a DC, and I wasn't overly impressed with what he did as a DB coach at Bama, considering the talent he had to work with and the pass rush we generated while he was here
This post was edited on 1/16/24 at 10:56 am
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