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:10 Runoff or TO?

Posted on 11/26/23 at 7:14 am
Posted by Gpfather
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 11/26/23 at 7:14 am
Now that we’ve basked in the glory of a top moment of all time, I’ve gotta ask why in God’s name you’d take the 1st of 3 TO’s to avoid the 10 sec runoff?

By using the TO, you’re forcing yourself to score a TD, as you won’t get the ball back with just 2 TO’s. The clock doesn’t even matter when you make that decision, as we couldn’t get a 1st down anyways.

We all know Coach isn’t known for his clock management, but this decision would’ve floored me for awhile.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 7:17 am to
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By using the TO, you’re forcing yourself to score a TD, as you won’t get the ball back with just 2 TO’s


I'm not sure what you're arguing here. A lot can happen on a fourth down play. For instance, pass interference could be called in the end zone, giving us a new set of downs. You're gonna want those additional 10 seconds if such a scenario plays out.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16999 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 7:19 am to
That’s a fair point. I was honestly wondering if we were going to do the field goal, onside thing. I’m obviously glad we didn’t, its success rate was probably less than what actually happened.

The muffed punt, recovery of it etc was all insane dominos falling.

Im not sure we could have stopped Auburn, got a punt and driven the field. Maybe but I felt like Freeze was saving a trick play for our arse on that drive had they had it.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16999 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 7:20 am to
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I'm not sure what you're arguing here.


I think what he is saying is you would want all three timeouts should you fail on fourth down. You could stop the clock on all three Auburn downs. Am I wrong in that?
Posted by Crimson77
Member since Dec 2019
774 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 7:50 am to
I wonder if it was just to avoid the runoff or if Saban just saw something that made him say screw the win probability, I need to talk to the team right now. Like somehow because it’s Saban and he is the GOAT he just knew that if we were going to win the game it had to be on that play, and he needed to get the players refocused to do it.

From a win probability standpoint it doesn’t make sense. You have to save the timeout and give yourself a shot at getting the ball back. By taking the timeout the entire game rests on that singular play.
Posted by auisssa
Member since Feb 2010
4197 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 8:29 am to
At the time I thought it was the wrong call. Would love to see the analytics on it.
Posted by crimson crazy
Member since Oct 2008
20511 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 9:37 am to
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That’s a fair point. I was honestly wondering if we were going to do the field goal, onside thing.


We were talking about it during the timeout. It was either save the timeout, kick the field goal and try the onside, or call timeout and come up with a play for it all. I said then I liked our odds of getting a TD or PI in the end zone better than I liked our odds of recovering an onside kick. Obviously I stand by that today
Posted by Gpfather
Member since Jan 2019
422 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:09 am to
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I think what he is saying is you would want all three timeouts should you fail on fourth down. You could stop the clock on all three Auburn downs. Am I wrong in that?


Correct.

And if time out was taken to rally the troops for one last heave (Td or Defensive penalty is the only positive outcome), then I would take the :10 runoff….but I’m also not the GOAT.
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