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re: Many schools have been gypped out of national titles, but 1983 Auburn was one of the worst
Posted on 6/29/23 at 3:20 pm to AUTiger789
Posted on 6/29/23 at 3:20 pm to AUTiger789
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Ohio State won the AP Title. How can you claim Georgia as “consensus champs” when they were #2 in the only poll that counts?
The AP was just one of nearly 20 different NCAA-authorized polls conducted back then. The AP was in its infancy and it wasn't even the most respected poll of that time. The Dickinson was. The AP didn't gain the respect it has today until the 1950s and 1960s and the reason for that is because many of the polls back then stopped doing them.
"Consensus" means the majority of all polls conducted went for UGA, not Ohio State. Eight polls voted for Georgia....5 went for Ohio State....1 went for Wisconsin. Therefore, the consensus (majority) of polls taken went to Georgia, not Ohio State and Wisconsin. Ohio State didn't even play in a bowl game. Georgia went to the Rose Bowl and beat UCLA, 9-0.
This post was edited on 6/29/23 at 3:22 pm
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Posted on 6/29/23 at 4:37 pm to JetDawg
Dickinson System never had the power that the AP and UPI did. Dickinson was just as irrelevant as Houlgate and other mathematical systems.
Also, only the SEC never had any restrictions on more than one program going to a major bowl or any bowl. B1G, Big 8, PCC, ACC, SWC did or the same team couldn’t go back-to-back years. Besides, the bowl result was irrelevant since bowls were exhibitions.
Also, only the SEC never had any restrictions on more than one program going to a major bowl or any bowl. B1G, Big 8, PCC, ACC, SWC did or the same team couldn’t go back-to-back years. Besides, the bowl result was irrelevant since bowls were exhibitions.
Posted on 6/29/23 at 8:04 pm to JetDawg
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The AP was just one of nearly 20 different NCAA-authorized polls conducted back then. The AP was in its infancy and it wasn't even the most respected poll of that time. The Dickinson was. The AP didn't gain the respect it has today until the 1950s and 1960s and the reason for that is because many of the polls back then stopped doing them.
"Consensus" means the majority of all polls conducted went for UGA, not Ohio State. Eight polls voted for Georgia....5 went for Ohio State....1 went for Wisconsin. Therefore, the consensus (majority) of polls taken went to Georgia, not Ohio State and Wisconsin. Ohio State didn't even play in a bowl game. Georgia went to the Rose Bowl and beat UCLA, 9-0.
Good lord so much wrong here. There were TWO polls at the time, the AP (Ohio St) and the Helms Athletic Foundation (Wisconsin). Buckeyes couldn't play in a bowl game because the B10 didn't allow members to at the time.
"The Dickinson" was Frank Dickinson and his personal math ranking, not a poll.
This post was edited on 6/29/23 at 8:06 pm
Posted on 6/29/23 at 8:12 pm to JetDawg
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The AP was just one of nearly 20 different NCAA-authorized polls conducted back then.
The AP has been THE STANDARD since 1936. Anyone who claims otherwise doesn’t know their history.
It’s also why Auburn has never claimed 1913, 1983, or 2004. Because David Housel is a student of the sport, and he knew Auburn could not claim a title not awarded by the AP or UPI. A true Auburn man.
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