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2016 Election Swing

Posted on 6/4/23 at 1:58 pm
Posted by tigertownnashh
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2016
231 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 1:58 pm
I was watching a clip from a Michael Moore film and the night before the election it seemed the Clinton campaign and national media were close to 100 percent sure they would win.

They had that big arse glass venue in NY with Thousands of people in it . Trump literally booked a ball room at the Hilton because even he thought there was no way . It was framed as if he had no shot

I wasn’t old enough to vote in that election but my question is genuinely what happened?
How did so many people get it wrong about who would win.

Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
100,000 posts
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 1:59 pm to
I think he got so many votes, it overwhelmed them and they didn't have enough fake ballots to count.
Posted by Hetfield
Dallas
Member since Jun 2013
7111 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 2:03 pm to
The Dems though it was a shoo in & did nothing to cheat like they did in 2020. They were completely caught off guard. Hilldog didn't even visit Michigan or Wisconsin because she thought she didn't need to & she lost both.

Hence, the Plandemic that ushered in mail in ballots to help them win in 2020.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 2:05 pm to
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what happened?

It was stolen for Trump by James Comey.
Posted by Message Board User
Member since Dec 2006
6700 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 2:10 pm to
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I wasn’t old enough to vote in that election but my question is genuinely what happened?


Trump got lucky, put simply.

The RCP average before the election was HRC +3.2; actual results was HRC +2.1...well within the margin of error.

LINK

He happened to win the key states by a combined 70K or 100K votes or some shite like that against a historically hated opponent and MAGA interpreted this victory as some kind of watershed event when in fact most normal people saw that both candidates sucked - it's just that Trump sucked a little less than HRC.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20259 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 2:16 pm to
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2016 Election Swing


They shut down the vote count in several swing states looking for GRC votes just as they did in 2029 BUT they were caught flat footed then. I remember distinctly listening to ol dude on CNN saying they were looking for Clinton votes…That was a lot more literal than we knew.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 2:19 pm to
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wasn’t old enough to vote in that election



but you can read.

538 had the probabilities.
search. read.
it's available.

state by state.

what happened is that comey made a big deal of information about email the Russian hackers provided for trump at his request to congress as if it meant something. read about it.
comey put his thumb on the scale two weeks before the election.
Posted by RammerJammer91
Member since Jan 2016
5195 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

I wasn’t old enough to vote in that election but my question is genuinely what happened?
How did so many people get it wrong about who would win.



-Trump outworked Hillary in the midwest swing states
-Jill Stein played spoiler in the midwest swing states
-Trump won the vote among those who disliked both candidates but were driven to vote against someone
-Late-deciding voters broke for Trump

Those were the biggest reasons. The 2nd point is big because Trump carried MI/PA/WI by approximately 78K votes combined. Jill Stein was on the ballot and took 132K votes away from Hillary in those 3 states. Without Jill Stein, Hillary wins those 3 states and the Electoral College.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
11292 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 2:46 pm to
The polls and the media are used to manipulate the public.

A no-way-to-win scenario could keep people from voting.
It could also be used to justify an election night protest/coup like Soros has done before.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
2447 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 5:17 pm to
Groupthink and pundits who were out of touch with the electorate. Most in corporate media were also largely driven by emotions and let their own biases cloud their objectivity when analyzing Trump as a candidate.
Posted by hottub
Member since Dec 2012
3376 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 6:56 pm to
Hillary getting in the van video, guaranteed union vote didn’t go the way they thought in the Rust Belt.
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
55041 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 7:02 pm to
There wasn't any unsolicited mail in voting, simple as that.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12643 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 7:24 pm to
I look at it as a combination of Trump getting some extra votes because he was a frick you vote from people who didn’t think he would win and plenty of people hated Hillary enough to stay home because Trump didn’t seem like a real threat.
Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
1978 posts
Posted on 6/5/23 at 9:30 am to
You witnessed operation mockingbird in full effect. repeat a narrative enough and the populace will begin to believe it. they had to do everything they could to convince republicans that DJT had NO CHANCE at winning in an effort to lower moral on republican side and to keep republicans from voting.

same shite that happened in 2020 when fox prematurely called states for Biden with 60% of the vote counted before polls closed.
Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 6/5/23 at 9:36 am to
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what happened?
Democrats cheat, that's what they do. But they didn't want to cheat so much that it looked suspicious. They never expected the turnout that Trump got and were not prepared for it. The cheating algorithm to flip votes didn't flip enough votes for cankles to win. They were not going to make that same mistake in 2020.
This post was edited on 6/5/23 at 9:42 am
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